Last Days for the X
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,788
Likes: 20
From: Mansfield, TX USA
Last Days for the X
This was posted at Blueovalnews.com by someone who works at Ford's KC plant. I don't know how accurate it is:
According to the Point Analyst for Excursion the final build out is April 30th for the 2005MY. Final order submission will most likely be sometime in Feb/Mar, but I don't have an exact date. As it stands today, 2005 will be the last model year.
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
LOL, Ford has been claiming "last year" for the Excursion, for almost 3 years now. I think they are just starting rumors like this, to encourage/increase sales. As long as people think its "last year" for the Excursion, they'll be more inclined to buy one now.
They said earlier, that it (the Ex) will stay, until a stretched Expedition will come out and take its place. If thats true, and 2005 is indeed the last year, guess we'll be seeing a stretched Expedition, by 2006.
Will
They said earlier, that it (the Ex) will stay, until a stretched Expedition will come out and take its place. If thats true, and 2005 is indeed the last year, guess we'll be seeing a stretched Expedition, by 2006.
Will
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,788
Likes: 20
From: Mansfield, TX USA
Originally Posted by willald
LOL, Ford has been claiming "last year" for the Excursion, for almost 3 years now. I think they are just starting rumors like this, to encourage/increase sales. As long as people think its "last year" for the Excursion, they'll be more inclined to buy one now.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
From: Limington, Maine
Originally Posted by willald
LOL, Ford has been claiming "last year" for the Excursion, for almost 3 years now. I think they are just starting rumors like this, to encourage/increase sales. As long as people think its "last year" for the Excursion, they'll be more inclined to buy one now.
They said earlier, that it (the Ex) will stay, until a stretched Expedition will come out and take its place. If thats true, and 2005 is indeed the last year, guess we'll be seeing a stretched Expedition, by 2006.
Will
They said earlier, that it (the Ex) will stay, until a stretched Expedition will come out and take its place. If thats true, and 2005 is indeed the last year, guess we'll be seeing a stretched Expedition, by 2006.
Will
And who the heck wants a stretched Expy? It would still be just an.... Expy.
Elder User
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
A freind of mine is a mechanic with a Ford dealership (I'm buds with the service manager too). They both confirmed that the stretched Expy is on it's way, either 05 or 06, but they had not heard the actual timeline. On a sadder note, the long rumored 4.2l V6 Diesel for the Expy has been SQUASHED. Seems Ford just couldn't get it to run clean enough and produce the proper power ratings. Apparently the engine had been in testing for a while, but a senior instructor from Detroit claimed it was now a non-entity. Too bad. I would have been interested in that.
Trending Topics
Junior User
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
A stretched Expy? That's offensive. 
I dont see how that's easier/better than updating the current version. *sigh*, guess I'll have to drive a CC Superduty, and just cut back on seating.On Edit: Was that the same motor supposedly going in the f150s? Woulda liked to have seen that!
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Wellll, maybe a stretched Expedition may not be all bad, if they find a way to fit it on the same superduty chassis the Ex rides on, and give it the same powertrain options.
Maybe they'll take the approach GM did with the Suburban/Yukon XL. Offer the Expedition in a (wimpy!) 1/2 ton version for the brainless urban-commuting soccer-mommies and yuppies out there. For the rest of us that want a real truck, they'd offer a stronger 3/4 ton version of the Expedition, that will have the same chassis/drivetrain that the Ex has now. I can see how that might work...
Will
Maybe they'll take the approach GM did with the Suburban/Yukon XL. Offer the Expedition in a (wimpy!) 1/2 ton version for the brainless urban-commuting soccer-mommies and yuppies out there. For the rest of us that want a real truck, they'd offer a stronger 3/4 ton version of the Expedition, that will have the same chassis/drivetrain that the Ex has now. I can see how that might work...
Will
Freshman User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
XXXcursion, I really hope Ford would not do something so stupid. The Ex has GM beat, in the 3/4 ton SUV market. GM does not even offer a diesel in their 3/4 ton Suburban, Ford has that market cornered. If they give up that advantage and make the new Expedition all 1/2 ton, that would be really sad (and stupid).
Will
Will
Elder User
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
I don't think you will see an expy be converted to a 3/4 ton chassis--that;s what the X is now. As for stretching the Expy, it would allow Ford to compete with the Ukon XL/Sub class. Seating for all the little kiddies and room for fido & the bags. All I know is that the 5.4 is barely adequate for the truck now. I haven't driven the 3v version, but adding another 700-1000lbs of curb weight isn't going to help anything.
Post Fiend
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,324
Likes: 1
From: Denton,TX
Originally Posted by tkd
On a sadder note, the long rumored 4.2l V6 Diesel for the Expy has been SQUASHED. Seems Ford just couldn't get it to run clean enough and produce the proper power ratings.
I don't think that Ford will get rid of the X without having something comperable (not a stretched Expedition) to replace it. Rumors have been going around for years that it was going to be discontinued and Ford continues to sell them.
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Broussard USA
GM predicted the death of the X when it came out, they said 90% of their Sub sales we the 1/2 ton unit. Ford wants some of that market so they had to make a change. I would like to see a streached EXP and a 3/4 ton unit on the same chasse if it will tow enough. IRS is another + in my book, it will tow better than a live axel because there is not side to side movement.
As to the V6 PSD, international is going to be running it in a new truck they are comming out with
Ford also is still working with the "VT 275 diesel engine, a 4.5 liter V6 design that immediately sets best-in-class standards for horsepower and torque. This high-performing diesel engine will deliver peak ratings of 200 hp at 3,000 rpm, and 440 lb.-ft. of torque at 1,850 rpm." the motor has met all emmision requirements. Now I do not know if Ford will put it in a truck but if not it will not be because the motor did not meet the requirments.
As to the V6 PSD, international is going to be running it in a new truck they are comming out with
Ford also is still working with the "VT 275 diesel engine, a 4.5 liter V6 design that immediately sets best-in-class standards for horsepower and torque. This high-performing diesel engine will deliver peak ratings of 200 hp at 3,000 rpm, and 440 lb.-ft. of torque at 1,850 rpm." the motor has met all emmision requirements. Now I do not know if Ford will put it in a truck but if not it will not be because the motor did not meet the requirments.