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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Subs and Amps...

Is it possible to hook up a subwoofer without running an amp? I'd like to run it without an amp just because I don't feel like spending any more money. If it's possible, where do you hook them up to? Splice into speaker wires?? I'm clueless....
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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No. Decks barely provide enough power to run the highs, never-the-less a subwoofer.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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You would need a self powered sub at the least.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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yeah it would be pointless to run a sub without an amp. most subs require at least 100 RMS watts to run and your head unit only puts out maybe 20 watts RMS. It will work but won't hit at all. I would recommend a powered sub box like a bazooka tube or the infinity. they aren't cheap but cheaper than buying a seperate amp and sub.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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powered subs start around 150.00 and are not that hard to wire. A simple amp setup is not that bad either.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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I also wouldn't recommend it, but it can be done. If you were to do it, you should be fair in your expectations of the results. The bass output will NOT be astounding. Since you evidently don't want bone-crushing bass just yet, you could get a pair of 6 1/2" subs, use a passive filter system to pass only the low frequencies to the subs, and hook them to your rear speaker outputs of the head unit. Run a pair of "main" speakers off the front and the subs off the rear. DO NOT do any parallel hook-ups on your head unit, or it could bite the big one. In other words, if you are running two pairs of "mains", do NOT try to hook into the existing speaker wiring. Remove the rear pair of speakers and use the subs in their place. There are some very efficient 6 1/2s that will blend pretty well, especially since the entire system is running from the HU. Be sure to check on 6 1/2" subs, not mid-woofers or mid-ranges. They are not the same thing. You may find out that, in the long run, you would be better to just buy an amp. The trouble you will go to to get this done just won't be worth the payoff, in my opinion.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Well, I guess after what I just read I'll be better off just getting an amp. My brother has a spare 600 watt amp laying around and I was thinking about using that, but my single 10inch sub only has 300watt max. power handling. Is that amp too big??
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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depends on how many channels it is. if its a mono sub amp forget it. if its a two channel just get another 10" sub. you need to look though and see what the RMS watts are not the max. check out crutchfield they have a listing of alot of amps and subs and see where those two fall in between.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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The RMS watts on my sub are 100. Since I only want one sub for now does that mean I need a 100watt amp?......Sorry, I don't know anything about this stuff
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Well, I guess after what I just read I'll be better off just getting an amp. My brother has a spare 600 watt amp laying around and I was thinking about using that, but my single 10inch sub only has 300watt max. power handling. Is that amp too big??
Saying an amp is 600 watts can mean a lot of things. I once saw an amp that had "1600 WATTS" on it. It was an off brand that was actually 100 watts x 4 RMS. Like previously mentioned, find out exactly what the amp is and exactly what the sub handles RMS.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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The amp is a Kenwood and all it says on it is 600watts, stereo/bridgeable. I'll just wait until my brother comes home and I'll talk to him about it, my head hurts....haha
 
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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It will give you a little over 300, if that.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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If you hook your sub to one UNBRIDGED channel of that amp, it will be fine. Sounds as though it is capable of 300 watts max and 150 watts RMS per channel in 2 channel operation. That's a pretty good match for your sub. You do NOT have to bridge an amp to use it with subs, and you do NOT have to use both channels, although it is rare not to. You would never buy new equipment with the intention of doing this, of course, but, in this case where you are trying to use what's available, it will be fine. Maybe you could find another sub like the one you have and add it to your system at some point, if you have the space.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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You do have to use both channels or you will ruin the amp in the long run.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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you do not have to use both channels. just run the sub off one channel and set the gain properly.
 
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