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Old 07-03-2004, 03:09 PM
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I just measured my edelbrock aluminum intake for my 400m the total width is 12-1/2" at the front and the front set of bolt holes are 10-5/8" c-c. the cleveland intakes are at least an inch narrower. I would have mentioned this earlier but i forgot i still had that intake lying around. I hope this helps you
 
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Originally Posted by grclark351
i think you are a little fuzzy on the numbers? D1AE is a common casting code for Clevelands and 400's, probably W's and others. the other number you have there, 6U12-C, i think that's your casting date code. the "U" doesn't make sense though, that digit is for the month of the year. A is january, B is febuary and on. I is not used. M is december, there aren't enough months to get a "U", could it be something else? to differentiate a C from an M, i would look at the front of the intake right behind the distributor like F150daniel suggested. most but not all M's have a 1" high rib of metal standing up to the right of the distributor, and the intake is a good 1" higher than the top of the block near the distributor. a Cleveland intake is about flush even with the top of the block near the distributor.
I was searching my Casting Code and rean across your post. My Casting Code is D1AE-A and I would agree it's a 400 now that I have seen yours and other post that have confirmed this. However the VIN: F10HN_______ I looked up said the F10 means 2 wheel drive and the H is for:
V8 351cid 2BBL carb 1973-80
OR the N can mean
V8 390cid 2BBL Carb 1973-76

Because my truck is a 1977 shouldent it be a 390? I am trying to find out what it is. I just bought it today. Then some people are telling me Ford used a 351 Modified? What does that mean? How do I know what my engin is?

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Last year for the 390 or any FE was '76.

A 351 in '77 would be a 351M.

The 351M is a short stroke 351 cubic inch version of the 400 engine, which was introduced in 1971. 400s and 351Ms are identical externally.

8 cap screws hold rectangular valve covers.

A 351W would have trapazoid shaped valve covers with the ends like so:
/----\ and have 6 capscrews holding them on.

A 351C would not be stock or even likely, as they stopped production in 1974, and were never factory installed in trucks other than the Ranchero.

You can get more info from other threads in this forum.

Bad news: 351Ms are pooches, underpowered, and no one likes them.

Good news: They last a long time, and can be made into a firebreather if you like.
 
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the code that i pulled off my block is D14E-6015-DA and next to that was F16, i cant figure out which engine it is, im trying to order parts but cant get them because of this.
 
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:06 AM
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are you sure it's not D1AE ?

too bad the sticky post about How to ID Ford Engines disappeared

is there a sticker on the valve cover?

you'll have to count the bolts on the valve cover, is the thermostat housing on the intake or the block, are the fuel pump bolts vertical or horizontal, exhaust bolts horizontal or diagonal, timing cover aluminum bolt-on or part of the block?
 
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fordforlife84
the code that i pulled off my block is D14E-6015-DA and next to that was F16, i cant figure out which engine it is, im trying to order parts but cant get them because of this.
Did you read this thread with all the info as to how to ID the engine? Valve cover bolt count and design, intake width, block height above water pump....

What parts are you trying to order?
 
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im trying to order a rebuild kit for the engine. i went to go get new spark plugs and the ones that i got that should have fit were way toosmall --Motorcraft sp450-- thats what it should have called for, i found the right ones in autolite, and they were apparently for 400 heads, i checked the fuel pump, its not a cleveland, but that still doesnt narrow it down much, its either a 351m or 351w.
 
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i just did a little searching, apparently its a 351W from 71'.

D1AE-6015-DA-6 D-70's 1-year A-full size car E-full engine
 
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351w. The valve covers look like so: /==\

May I suggest you take the engine apart and measure the bore and crank before you buy parts. You probably need to bore it, and may need to turn the crank down. How would you know the right specs before you determined that....?
 
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:52 AM
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351C & M use the same fuel pump

yes, parts are best left to ordering after the engine disassembled, inspected & machined. previous work could dictate unknown over & under sizes even if you're going to just 'freshen it'
 
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it has the fuel pump from a 351w. but i still have to figure out what type of heads are on the block.
 
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could be a Clevor i suppose?

look at the exhaust manifold/header bolts. W bolts are straight across in a line, C, M/400 are diagonal across the ports and the end of the heads look square
 
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Originally Posted by fordforlife84
it has the fuel pump from a 351w. but i still have to figure out what type of heads are on the block.
Are the valve covers rectangles or trapazoids?

[==]

or

/==\
 
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to help clarify and confuse this identification issue, does a cleveland use a smallblock or big block bellhousing? i have heard both ways.
 
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351C = SBF bell pattern.

Early 400 blocks, a very few had SBF bell pattern. Most have the same pattern as the 385 series motors. (429/460)

351M, same block as the 400, intro'd in '75, so all are 385 pattern.
 


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