keys? 97 mountaineer
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keys? 97 mountaineer
Hi all... a very Ford (Mercury) noob question here. I just got a used 97 Mountaineer from a co-worker and did not think much about this until I got the truck home. Instead of using the key fob (or touch pad) to unlock the truck I tried to use the key (he gave me two ignition keys). Neither of them works in any of the locks on the truck. So... do Fords have two separate keys (one for ignition, one for doors?) or maybe he had to have the ignition replaced.
In any case, if I can not get a key that work from him anyone know how much I am going to get whacked for a set of replacement cylinders and keys (I would replace just the door locks not the ignition).
thanks,
-K22JB
In any case, if I can not get a key that work from him anyone know how much I am going to get whacked for a set of replacement cylinders and keys (I would replace just the door locks not the ignition).
thanks,
-K22JB
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K22JB, the ignition key should also unlock all the doors. Try spraying a lock with WD-40 and gently turn the key back and forth; see if it will loosen up. Just fiddle with it a little, back and forth, up and down, then gently turn the key.
My Explorer was the same way when I first bought it. The key wouldn't unlock the doors. Apparently the previous owner always used the key fob, and never used the door locks, and they were stuck.....
My Explorer was the same way when I first bought it. The key wouldn't unlock the doors. Apparently the previous owner always used the key fob, and never used the door locks, and they were stuck.....
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yeah... I'm having trouble even getting the key all the way into any of the slots which is why is was suspect of the second key idea... but it sounds like it should work... I'll try a little gun oil on it and see what happens.
[edit] well, no joy... they key goes into the key hole about 1/2 way and just will go no furhter, almost like it is the wrong shape (same on all three locks) so I am assuming it has to be another key as both of the ones for the ignition don't work.
Thanks for the help so far.
[edit] well, no joy... they key goes into the key hole about 1/2 way and just will go no furhter, almost like it is the wrong shape (same on all three locks) so I am assuming it has to be another key as both of the ones for the ignition don't work.
Thanks for the help so far.
Last edited by K2JJB; May 28, 2004 at 09:03 PM.
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Well, I resolved the issue by pulling the door panels appart and removing the lock cylinders. Seems that the first owner of the truck never ever used the door locks with the keys and relied on the key fob. Each and every one of the cylinders is corroded to the point that the pins do not lift when you push the key in. An overnight soak in penetrating oil did not help either (and I do not know what that did to the security system connection that is on it).
I ordered a single spare, which I will be installed on the driver's side, from the dealer (~70 bucks just for the parts!). They actually key each replacement to the key itself so the dealer is the one that "has to" install them!
I ordered a single spare, which I will be installed on the driver's side, from the dealer (~70 bucks just for the parts!). They actually key each replacement to the key itself so the dealer is the one that "has to" install them!
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K22JB, that's a bad case of corrosion. Mine apparently was the same, although not as bad as yours. I would still not give up on the lubricating spray in the locks. There's a lithium type grease available in a spray can, that "bubbles" when you spray it and then forms into a lubricating grease. Maybe you can get something similiar that would eventually work itself into the lock enough to free it.......
Most of these lubes are non-conductive, so you can't short out the security system by using them. Good luck.
Most of these lubes are non-conductive, so you can't short out the security system by using them. Good luck.
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Well, I got the lock cylinder from the dealer today. I was going to have them install it, but decided to read the directions that came with it... if you have a caliper on hand then it is a simple job to pin the cylinder to the truck's key. That is what I did... now I have one good working lock and will begin to see if I can take appart the cylider I just pulled out and get it working. I'll try rotating them through the truck that way.
Thanks for the advice as well Thelonerangerxlt
Thanks for the advice as well Thelonerangerxlt
