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Old May 21, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Did Ford make an original 400 Cleveland engine?
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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nope just a 400. the 351C, 351M and 400 (351M/400) are 335 series motors so a lot of part interchange but ford never called the 400 anything but 400, not 400M, not 400C.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Thumbs up thanks F150daniel

Thanks for the info! Im 23 and I've been around Fords pretty much all my life.A friend insisted that He put a 400 Cleveland in truck and I knew better.
Just wanted more confirmation.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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I've heard that myth too...no idea where it started. The 400 has been called the 351C's big brother, maybe it started there.

Recently I was at the gas station and they guy next to me insisted my 400 was a cleveland
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fordtruckman23
Thanks for the info! Im 23 and I've been around Fords pretty much all my life.A friend insisted that He put a 400 Cleveland in truck and I knew better.
Just wanted more confirmation.
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If you live in Australia or New Zealand, it is pretty common to call it a 400 Cleveland but it is still just a 400, nothing different about it. Some of the old timers I grew up around told me about the 400 FMX blocks and they did call those 400C's. It wasn't until I got on the internet in 1995 that I heard the blocks called a 400 FMX. Didn't mean to muddy the waters.

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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Friend insisted it came in an old thunderbird.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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they put 'em in T-birds. pretty much anywhere the 460 went the 351M/400 went and some places the 460 didn't go(pre 80s 4X4s)

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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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When the 400 first came out in 1971, werent they called a 400 cleveland then? Because they used the same heads and the blocks were very similar , the main difference is the 400 block is taller .
 
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400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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okay okay 400. jeez.
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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did they stamp 400 Cleveland on engine "anywhere"
 
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Old May 21, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fordtruckman23
did they stamp 400 Cleveland on engine "anywhere"
Nope.

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Old May 22, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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Am I just full of it again, or did not the names Windsor, as in Windsor, Canada and Cleveland, as in Cleveland Ohio, where these motors were made, give them their names? Huh Huh Huh?
 
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Old May 22, 2004 | 03:46 AM
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There was never a Cleveland attachment to the 400, just as there was never an "M" attachment.
 
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Old May 22, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Am I just full of it again, or did not the names Windsor, as in Windsor, Canada and Cleveland, as in Cleveland Ohio, where these motors were made, give them their names? Huh Huh Huh?
Yep, the 400 never had a suffix - there was no need for it as it was the only 400 Ford made. As for the 351s, that's how Ford differentiated between them - and I think it was where they were cast, not necessarily built; the 351W was cast at the Windsor Foundry, the Cleveland at the Cleveland Foundry. The 400 was cast at the Cleveland Foundry, Michigan Casting Center, and early on at the Detroit Iron Foundry. So maybe you could really confuse people by saying "I have a 400MCC, or a 400DIF, or.... " Nahhhhhhhh.
 
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