FT Pan conversion, more new pics.
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FT Pan conversion, more new pics.
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Looking good Greg. You shouldn't be starving for oil with that. Can you fill that pan up with 9 quarts of water and show us how far it comes up? I wish I would have filled mine up with 6.5qts to show everyone what the stock pan looks like with its oil capacity in it.
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From: Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Looks good Greg.... I was thinking? maybe go with a NY-LOCK nut on the brace for the pick-up tube? I wonder if that would keep it in place better than the lock washer and nut? use the lock washer with the Ny-lock nut?
But it looks like you'll play hell running that one dry! Good Luck-Russ
But it looks like you'll play hell running that one dry! Good Luck-Russ
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Looks good Greg. That is basically what I did with mine. I did use a nylok nut though. Not sure either is better, but never know until I have to take it apart to see if it had come loose. Don't think it is an issue. Maybe a dab of locktite too??
I would definitely put some baffles in that pan before you get it looking TOO purdy! A quick test is put 6-7 qts of water in it and slosh it back and forth like you would be accelerating from a stop. Notice it goes EVERYWHERE. Granted the pickup is in the back, but the oil will run right up the rear wall and splash around.
I put a small upright baffle in about the middle of the pan, plus another about 1/2 way up the rear wall. It helps keep the slosh under control. After you tack them in, do the water test. Notice how much better it controls it. No major wakes of oil moving around anymore.
Just a thought.
I would definitely put some baffles in that pan before you get it looking TOO purdy! A quick test is put 6-7 qts of water in it and slosh it back and forth like you would be accelerating from a stop. Notice it goes EVERYWHERE. Granted the pickup is in the back, but the oil will run right up the rear wall and splash around.
I put a small upright baffle in about the middle of the pan, plus another about 1/2 way up the rear wall. It helps keep the slosh under control. After you tack them in, do the water test. Notice how much better it controls it. No major wakes of oil moving around anymore.
Just a thought.
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Russ and Frighttrain thanks for the ideas on the nylon lock nut. I'll probably go that way. Freight, I wish you had some pictures of those baffles. I may try to do something. Did you notice it already has some structure in there that will help reduce sloshing around?
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Ya, it does have a "well" that helps keep the oil around the pickup tube. The only thing is dumptrucks don't accelerate too hard.
Do the test and watch the water move around easily though. The baffles were not much more than 16 ga. sheetmetal that I welded in. The middle one was only 1-2" tall(so it did not interfere with anything like pickup or windage tray), the rear was the same size, but on the rear wall to help keep oil from running up the back. I left a small gap on bottom baffle to let oil drain back and forth, but the wall help keep the major slosh from happening.
The dipstick tube hole I just siliconed a bolt in it. Ya, not right, but I forgot to seal it permanently, so I glued a bolt in it. Never a leak yet.
Do the test and watch the water move around easily though. The baffles were not much more than 16 ga. sheetmetal that I welded in. The middle one was only 1-2" tall(so it did not interfere with anything like pickup or windage tray), the rear was the same size, but on the rear wall to help keep oil from running up the back. I left a small gap on bottom baffle to let oil drain back and forth, but the wall help keep the major slosh from happening.
The dipstick tube hole I just siliconed a bolt in it. Ya, not right, but I forgot to seal it permanently, so I glued a bolt in it. Never a leak yet.
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I found some good candidate metal laying in my shop. cut it and started to put in in. I'm not a very good welder. Combine that with the confines of the pan, trying to hold the metal and not blind myself...what a mess. I think I got one in and didn't tear up the pan yet...I see what you were saying now, about "don't get too pretty yet"....that paint cooked right off :-)
I guess this ain't got to be pretty welds on the inside :-)
I have to stop working for a while. Must go retrieve grandmother from a hundred miles away so she can attend a cousins college graduation dinner. Hopefully, I'll get back to wrenching this afternoon with some pushrods, and Lord willing, the Romac balancer (so far, not impressed with MadDog racing from ebay. I paid for that part on May 2nd :-(
I guess this ain't got to be pretty welds on the inside :-)
I have to stop working for a while. Must go retrieve grandmother from a hundred miles away so she can attend a cousins college graduation dinner. Hopefully, I'll get back to wrenching this afternoon with some pushrods, and Lord willing, the Romac balancer (so far, not impressed with MadDog racing from ebay. I paid for that part on May 2nd :-(
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Ya, know about that welding bit. I'm by far NOT a perfeshinal either 
. But, I can lay down a nice bead if I have too and NOTHING has ever broke loose!
It's not under any big stresses so a few good tacks will hold it, and lord knows it will not RUST
I have one of those automatic helmets......they make you a perfeshinal overnite
. If I had to flip a lid each time...I'd weld my gloves to the table 
. But, I can lay down a nice bead if I have too and NOTHING has ever broke loose!It's not under any big stresses so a few good tacks will hold it, and lord knows it will not RUST
I have one of those automatic helmets......they make you a perfeshinal overnite
. If I had to flip a lid each time...I'd weld my gloves to the table
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Well, I got some baffles in it. I think it will work well. But I'm too embarassed to show any pics. What a crappy welding job. I think part of the problem was that my baffles are made of galvanized steel. Regardless, they feel like they are well attached. I put 2 tall baffles on the edges attached to the side and bottom, with about a 1" gap in betwee to prevent the oil from sloshing to the front of the pan. I put a baffle on the back wall to keep it from sloshing up on hard acceleration.
I'm running out of wrenching energy. And those bozo's from MadDog racing have yet to deliver my balancer. not to mention the honey-dos and family-dos that are piling up...why does work and family and all that other crap keep getting in the way of my truck project ;-)
I'm running out of wrenching energy. And those bozo's from MadDog racing have yet to deliver my balancer. not to mention the honey-dos and family-dos that are piling up...why does work and family and all that other crap keep getting in the way of my truck project ;-)
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Come on Greg! Show us the pics! Nobody will say anything. Maybe it isn't professional but everybody has something hillbilly rigged. Functionality is the key. Nobody is going to see it when you bolt it up anyway. I have thought about making a trap door in the pan. You could rivet a hinge to a baffle with a big hole in it and rivet a piece of metal bigger than the hole to the hinge to allow oil to flow towards the sump but not away.
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From: Elk Horn,KY.
I know that this may sound stupid but thats the same pan thats on my 75' 4x4. I changed the oil in it one day. Put 7 QTs. in it and still showed 2 Qts. low. I didnt know that they ever made a 9 Qt. oil pan. I guess know I do....lol. BTW: what did the oil pan come of of? I've always been a Ford guy but this is the first FE engine that I have ever had.
Thanks a bunce!
Thanks a bunce!
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Thanks a bunch gtex. Whom ever built this 390 in my truck apperantly spent some major money on it. I just keep finding cool mods thats been done to it. A few of the things that I have noted thus far is adjustable rockers, factory low rise alum. intake, it has C8ae-r heads. I dont know what year the engine is as I cant fnd a casting number on it anywhere. Maybe someday I'll tear the thing down and see what I really have. Thanks again!