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That would really depend on what is most important to you--having the truck exactly as you want it, or possibly getting a better price on the truck? I ordered and have absolutely no buyers remorse. My truck took a little longer than I had expected to come in, so I looked at a similar truck on another lot and really considered buying it instead of waiting an undetermined amount of time on mine. The truck was really close to what I wanted, but had a few options I didn't want. I waited on mine and am sooo glad I did. Everything is exactly what I wanted.
If options/color/etc. is not terribly important and you are flexible on these things, then you can probably get a better deal on dealer stock.
The only other thing I can think of to consider is whether you want to wait on an order, or drive the new truck home right away.
FWIW, I will order from now on. There is some aggrivation involved, but well worth it in the end.
Just my .02, hope it helps.
If options/color/etc. is not terribly important and you are flexible on these things, then you can probably get a better deal on dealer stock.
The only other thing I can think of to consider is whether you want to wait on an order, or drive the new truck home right away.
FWIW, I will order from now on. There is some aggrivation involved, but well worth it in the end.
Just my .02, hope it helps.
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The number one factor is time. If you have the time to wait for an ordered truck, then you'll probably be happier with it in the long run; it's exactly what you want, no more and no less. If the current vehicle has died, or it's been destroyed in an accident, and the alternative is to WALK: then I guess a dealer trade is in order. But this can be problematic. You'll have to compromise on equipment and color, and there's no guarantee the other dealer will trade it. You also run a greater risk of getting a damaged vehicle. If the dealer has to go a long distance, or has to buy it outright (as opposed to trading a vehicle), then be prepared to pay more. My advice: order when it's feasible.
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You should be able to get an ordered vehicle for less than one in stock. Anyone who tells you anything else is full of crap. With an ordered vehicle, there is no overhead. No insurance, no washing from bird crap/dust, no inventory costs, NOTHING. They sit down and write the order in 5 minutes, and then when it comes in, they slap an inspection sticker on it and you come pick it up. There's no work involved. The dealers just want to get rid of whats one their lots so they don't have to pay the overhead on in-stock vehicles. I'm waiting on my third ordered vehicle. Only way to go in my opinion. You get exactly what you want, and if you end up not liking something afterall, it's your fault, so there's nothing to complain about.
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Originally Posted by 519DVX
...They sit down and write the order in 5 minutes, and then when it comes in, they slap an inspection sticker on it and you come pick it up. There's no work involved...
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That's not exactly what I meant. You spend a lot of your time talking to customers and staying up to date with rebates, financing, options, etc. That stuff is all there whether the vehicle is bought off the lot or not. All other things being equal, there is less effort put into an ordered vehicle than there is with one that sits on the lot, getting dirty, being test driven, moved around for displays, washed, insured, and kept on inventory. An ordered vehicle comes in and is gone then next day. It's in the service bay for an hour while everything is checked and the plastic is taken off the seats. I'm not saying you guys don't have ANY work to do, but strictly talking about the vehicle itself, there's very little work to do on an ordered vehicle.
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look spend a day in a salesman shoes and you will see that they earn every penny they make.
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AHHHHHHHH.......That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying an ordered vehicle costs less than one that sits on the lot. Most places won't tell you that because they want to get rid of inventory. That's it. I'm not arguing about the job.
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if there was no store, or no salesman and tech's, than there would be no overhead. now where do you want to have your truck delivered to? i'm not trying to flame you. but running a buisness is not cheap and profit is not a dirty word either.
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Originally Posted by 519DVX
AHHHHHHHH.......That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying an ordered vehicle costs less than one that sits on the lot. Most places won't tell you that because they want to get rid of inventory. That's it. I'm not arguing about the job.
I disagree with that. It's not difficult to get a vehicle at (or very near) invoice. Ordered or dealer stock--makes no difference. And invoice is invoice, no matter how many times the vehicle has been washed or moved, etc.
Just my .02
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In 519DVX's defense I spoke to a dealer just last week and he told me the same thing. He said he could sell me a car for less if I ordered it than if it had come off the lot because there was no overhead for the car I ordered- car washes, space on the lot, etc.
He went on to explain that most dealers would rather sell you a car on the lot because they are constantly worried about the current months sales. An ordered car may not come in for 4 to 6 weeks and will not count toward bonus until next month or the month after. Seems short sighted to me, but some people are worried about now. I will never go to a lot on the last day of the month - most salespeople seem to get real pushy.
So, like most others have already said it seems to come down to 2 things: Time and if the exact model/features/color is not on the lot - compromise.
He went on to explain that most dealers would rather sell you a car on the lot because they are constantly worried about the current months sales. An ordered car may not come in for 4 to 6 weeks and will not count toward bonus until next month or the month after. Seems short sighted to me, but some people are worried about now. I will never go to a lot on the last day of the month - most salespeople seem to get real pushy.
So, like most others have already said it seems to come down to 2 things: Time and if the exact model/features/color is not on the lot - compromise.
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Originally Posted by tm2391
In 519DVX's defense I spoke to a dealer just last week and he told me the same thing. He said he could sell me a car for less if I ordered it than if it had come off the lot because there was no overhead for the car I ordered- car washes, space on the lot, etc.
He went on to explain that most dealers would rather sell you a car on the lot because they are constantly worried about the current months sales...
He went on to explain that most dealers would rather sell you a car on the lot because they are constantly worried about the current months sales...
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