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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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I am doing the 360 to 390 conversion. Figuring on paper with my setup it looks like I will have between 9.5 and 10:1. I've heard that higher compression raises horsepower. Does this hurt torque? The reason I ask is because most of the big truck motors run very low compression. I am going to use the motor i'm building mainly for daily driving or towing/hauling. Not really for drag racing. Just wondering.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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I have never heard of compression lowering torque. I am not sure why the old ft had 7.4 to 1 comp. Sounds like premium gas will be needed.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Work requires Power, Power produces Heat, Heat creates Detonation. A high compression engine may live fine in a car, but put it in a truck and load it down and detonation could rear its ugly head.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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boy thats the truth. i know from first hand experience.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Compression will not lower torque, it will raise it. The most compression you can get, without detonation, with any given cam, is where you will create the most power. The reason someone might associate high compression with low torque is that typically a high compression engine will also have a long duration cam. It is the cam, not the compression, that lowers torque. With a short duration cam compression can't go very high before the dreaded ping starts. Still, as long as it is appropriate for the fuel you use, compression is a good thing.

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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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9.5 is pushing it on iron heads and rv cam. 9.0 is better or 10.0 with aluminum heads. It is so easy to wind up with a rattling engine on a truck. I used silvolite 1130's with a crane 901 at 12 initial advance and get away with 87 octane. If I am pulling or hauling I use premium.
 
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Thanks for the replies. Fordeverpower, what compression/engine/cam are you running just out of curiosity?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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i have a 390 .030 over, rv cam (do not know the specs yet), and about 9 to 9.5 to 1 comp. I burnt up a valve before because of to much total timing. It was at like 55 degrees total. I thought i did the same thing again but it turned out to be the valve seat came out.
 
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Originally Posted by fordeverpower
i have a 390 .030 over, rv cam (do not know the specs yet), and about 9 to 9.5 to 1 comp. I burnt up a valve before because of to much total timing. It was at like 55 degrees total. I thought i did the same thing again but it turned out to be the valve seat came out.
boy them valve seets get us everytime, i had the same problem on my 390, when i tore it apart one of the valve seets had fell out and was rattling around on the valve and ruined the valve and put a gash in the head.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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The FT was a low compression engine because they wanted an engine that could take a severe beating, run sub-standard gas and live forever. They got exactly what they were going for.

Upping compression will up torque across the board unless you are lacking enough octane and can't advance the timing at low RPMs to make it work right.
 
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