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need help weight
ok my truck is registered for 12,000 check my sig= now my travel trailer loaded weight is 11,000 lbs the camper trailer is registered for 12,000 lbs. the whole thing is 59 feet long, in bed of truck is junk like tools and household stuff, truck weight full is about 11,000 = that 22,000 lbs= they don't register trucks for 22,000 lbs = so now what. other people are doing this, so how they doing it. their must be something i don't understand?? i no longer use slide in camper, now have tow trailer. am i leagel, or will i get ticket
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click here for the ford towing guide. If you registered your truck for 12000lbs then the gcvwr cannot exceed this. Your owners manual should have the maximum weights listed in it, in a chart form. Also the label on the inside drivers door pillar will list weights.
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The GVW of your truck is 9200 lbs. Regardless of what you've licensed it for, that's what is printed on the door jamb. Technically, you aren't supposed to exceed 9200 lbs for a total of the weight on the four tires of the truck. If you're pulling a trailer, then the weight the trailer puts on the truck is included in that number. That said, most people see a one ton crewcab, and assume the GVW is 10000 lbs, so you'd likely be held to that number in most cases.
The GCVW of your truck is 20000 lbs. That would be the total of the truck, trailer, and any cargo in either one. If you're towing a total weight of 22000 lbs, you legally don't have enough truck. People do it all the time, but technically they're overloaded in the eyes of the law. There's no way that you'd ever be checked, however, unless you were the cause of an accident. At that point, the attorney for the other party could well insist on weighing your rig.
In the states I know about, you don't have to license the truck for the total weight of the truck and trailer, only the truck.
The GCVW of your truck is 20000 lbs. That would be the total of the truck, trailer, and any cargo in either one. If you're towing a total weight of 22000 lbs, you legally don't have enough truck. People do it all the time, but technically they're overloaded in the eyes of the law. There's no way that you'd ever be checked, however, unless you were the cause of an accident. At that point, the attorney for the other party could well insist on weighing your rig.
In the states I know about, you don't have to license the truck for the total weight of the truck and trailer, only the truck.
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thanks quadzilla, I just called the state police weight station, just before i received the post from you. and they told me that travel trailors are excempt of weight up to 24,000 lbs and under 60 feet. my rig is 59 feet so i am ok.that includes truck and camper. in all states. he said if i tow a boat trailer or travel trailer, no problem. But if i tow anything else like car trailor utillity etc etc, the weitht of the trailor has to be on the truck. sounds good to me. I did not tell him i carry a harley in the living room?? but i am still under 24,000 lbs. gee same as bycycle isn't it. haha thanks for the reply. shendoa.
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quadzilla, you say their in no way they would check, well what happens when one is driving the interstate, and you see a weigh station and a sign saying all trucks and campers and commercial veichle stop here?? they have one in virginia.
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I've never seen a place where private citizens towing an RV in the US have to stop at the scales. I understand that you do in parts of Canada, though. If you say there's one in Virginia, I'll believe you. If you were pulling a travel trailer, or anything else commercially, you'd be subject to getting weighed at the scales.
Maybe someone from Virginia will chime in with their local laws.
I've never seen a place where private citizens towing an RV in the US have to stop at the scales. I understand that you do in parts of Canada, though. If you say there's one in Virginia, I'll believe you. If you were pulling a travel trailer, or anything else commercially, you'd be subject to getting weighed at the scales.
Maybe someone from Virginia will chime in with their local laws.
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Quadzilla, well maybe you are correct, my son in law went on a fishing trip last year, in his truck and travel trailer. when we got to verginia around roaenoke, I think that how you spell it, any ways it was the first time i traveled the states, since 1963 and when we got to the sign he said we had to stop. so we did. he had commercial plates on his truck, so do I, that why he said we had to stop. guess when me and wife get their again, i won't stop. se what happens. haha probably end up in jail, for not stopping. anyways I will let you know what happens. you would not think one would have to stop when one is on vacation. maybe my son in law was trying to impress me by getting too technical. you know what i mean, he wanted me to think he knew what he was doing. he normaly works construction all over the usa.
thanks for the reply, you probably correct. 99.9 you correct. my boy 30 percent correct.
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thanks for the reply, you probably correct. 99.9 you correct. my boy 30 percent correct.
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Virginia is not a state, it is a commonwealth.
You better stop at the scales in Virginia.
Maryland was getting kinda iffy for a while.
Roanoke, Virginia you must have been headed to Smith Mountain Lake.
You better stop at the scales in Virginia.
Maryland was getting kinda iffy for a while.
Roanoke, Virginia you must have been headed to Smith Mountain Lake.
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
Virginia is not a state, it is a commonwealth.
You better stop at the scales in Virginia.
Maryland was getting kinda iffy for a while.
Roanoke, Virginia you must have been headed to Smith Mountain Lake.
You better stop at the scales in Virginia.
Maryland was getting kinda iffy for a while.
Roanoke, Virginia you must have been headed to Smith Mountain Lake.
http://www.virginia.gov/cmsportal/go...089/index.html
As for the weigh station thing, I found nothing to support the claim that you have to stop. The references are made to commercial vehicles only. They tell you that at 26,001 GCWR and up you need a commercial drivers license EXCEPT for personal vehicles. This comment, although it could be confused as pertaining to personal vehicles, in context refers to commercial vehicles:
"Operators of trucks which are defined in part which are defined as having a Gross Vehicle Weight in excess of 7500 lbs..." No mention of personal vehicles except the section on not having to have a CDL.
http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/pdf/dmv109.pdf
BTW, I heard from someone who works at a weigh station that the reason they don't always say "commercial" is that this would exclude farm vehicles which are not exempt.
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FYI, I sent an email to the Virginia DMV to settle this weigh station thing. This topic somes up so often on this site and others I thought I would investigate it. Here's the email I sent:
I have a question regarding weigh stations in the commonwealth of
Virginia. When I travel through Virginia I will be towing an RV with my
pickup truck (8800 GVWR). These are for personal use only. Am I required
to stop at weigh stations? Please email me the response. Thank you.
Here was their response:
I contacted our Motor Carrier Division and they informed me that you
are not required to stop at the weigh station.
I have a question regarding weigh stations in the commonwealth of
Virginia. When I travel through Virginia I will be towing an RV with my
pickup truck (8800 GVWR). These are for personal use only. Am I required
to stop at weigh stations? Please email me the response. Thank you.
Here was their response:
I contacted our Motor Carrier Division and they informed me that you
are not required to stop at the weigh station.