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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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i am rebilding my 351m moteor in my 79 bronco. i will be putting cleavland heads,edalbrock intake and 600cfm carb.it will be bored 30 over. which type of cam and lifters should i put i still want to run pump gas. but at the same time play.

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i am looking for sum advise on rebilding my 1979 351m motor for my bronco.
i will be putting cleavland heads,aluminume intake,600cfm carb,and 30 over.
what type of pistons, cam and lifters should i use. and i do not know how to figure anything out in the forems. any help would be much apreceated.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Tim,

What kind of Cleveland heads, are they 2V, 4V, open chamber, closed chamber?

You should also consider a 400 crank and pistons instead of the 351M crank and pistons.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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i just put a new crank,main and rod bearings.and im not sure what type of heads. but i will have to find out, but i might use the stock heads.what type of cam and lifters and pistons should i use?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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i am bilding this on a tight budjet.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Here is a tech article that you should read.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/mblock.php


This is the highest compression piston for a 351M that I know of.
351M 1975-82
Forged
8.6:1
TRW L2466F

The cam should be selected based on the kind of use that you plan and the final compression ratio of your build. The Comp cams XE256 is good for low RPM torque, and lower compression motors. The Comp Cams XE 262 or 265DEH are good for midrange performance with a little more compression.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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the heads are 2v closed chamber. it will be used for play and snow plowing
but i might use my stock heads im not sure yet.
thank you for your help
 

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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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with these numbers that you gave me. what type of pistons should i use for 30 over
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Stock heads are 78.4cc. Closed chamber 2V heads have to be Aussie heads. They may be as low as 58cc.

The TRW pistons in my last post will give 8.6:1 with 78.4cc heads. With Aussie (58cc) heads they will give you 10.7:1 CR. That is too high.

If you use the 351M 1975-82 Forged 8.0:1 TRW L2436F with 58cc heads your CR will be 9.7:1. You will be OK with 93 Octane with a XE 262 or 265DEH cam.

I would recommend doing a little work on the chambers as well as the ports. A few more cc's in the combustion chamber will give you some margin. You should have at least 60cc for the XE262 cam.

You should check the combustion chamber volume, or have someone check them before you start buying parts.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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thank you very much. i will look into what kind of cleavland heads they are and i will let you know more about them. also do you know where i might perchas a desktop dyno?
 
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Try this link.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/email/defa...2&SRCCODE=5KW1
 
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thany you i will check that out. those cleavland heads arnt 2v they are 4 v heads not sure if they are open or closed tho. thanks again tim
 
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You can use 351C-4V heads on a 351M, but you can't buy a intake manifold to fit. You need a 351C-4V manifold and a set of adapter plates.
 
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ok that kinda sucks becouse i just bout a intake of my buddy he said it was the same.he had the intake on a stock 351m and got the heads later but never installed them. now hes got a 429 dune to the nuts in a mud racerso i gues i will stay with the stalk heads, pistons, but will put a cam and intake and a 600 cfm carb for now. i was origanly going to put a 460 in it but after a little home work i found out it was to much of a hassle. so i have a 460 sitting in my garrage as well.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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sweet set up you have. is there any mods i have to do to run an msds ignition and coil?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Use the 8.6:1 pistons, the XE262 cam, get your stock heads milled to increase the CR, and ported to improve the head flow. Get roller rockers and a dual roller timing chain.
 
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