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Has anyone made any modifications to their SD w/ V10, like dual exhaust, changed mufflers or "chipped". If so what was done and what results were gained, mpg,power, other. Thanks for any information. If "chipped" about how much $$.
Ordering:2000 F250 SD/lariat/CC/Short/4x4/loaded!!
Ordering:2000 F250 SD/lariat/CC/Short/4x4/loaded!!
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Yes sir, I have a 99 F-250 SD 4x4 v-10, manual trans., 3:73 rearend.
I cut the exhaust off behind the converter and put a Y-pipe for 2 straight pipes 2 1/2 inch diameter out the back with no mufflers and finishing it with 3 inch stainless echo tips. Sounds really good and increased fuel mileage.
I cut the exhaust off behind the converter and put a Y-pipe for 2 straight pipes 2 1/2 inch diameter out the back with no mufflers and finishing it with 3 inch stainless echo tips. Sounds really good and increased fuel mileage.
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>Has anyone made any modifications to their
>SD w/ V10, like dual exhaust,
>changed mufflers or "chipped". If so
>what was done and what results
>were gained, mpg,power, other. Thanks for
>any information. If "chipped" about how
>much $$.
>Ordering:2000 F250 SD/lariat/CC/Short/4x4/loaded!!
I "chipped" mine with a Superchip, which retails for nearly 500 clams. It requires you to use premium gasoline (90 octane), but adds quite a bit to the performance. Shifts are firmed up which will add life to the trans, but in doing so kills the factory's smooth "seamless shifts". Can't relly see much change in fuel consumption, although I might be standing on it a bit more, now. Also, the (factory) powertrain module's programming limits top speed to 95mph, and that limit is removed by the Superchip. Careful there! The E-Rated tires aren't safe for much over 105, if you're tempted to see just how fast that truck will go.
Tom
>SD w/ V10, like dual exhaust,
>changed mufflers or "chipped". If so
>what was done and what results
>were gained, mpg,power, other. Thanks for
>any information. If "chipped" about how
>much $$.
>Ordering:2000 F250 SD/lariat/CC/Short/4x4/loaded!!
I "chipped" mine with a Superchip, which retails for nearly 500 clams. It requires you to use premium gasoline (90 octane), but adds quite a bit to the performance. Shifts are firmed up which will add life to the trans, but in doing so kills the factory's smooth "seamless shifts". Can't relly see much change in fuel consumption, although I might be standing on it a bit more, now. Also, the (factory) powertrain module's programming limits top speed to 95mph, and that limit is removed by the Superchip. Careful there! The E-Rated tires aren't safe for much over 105, if you're tempted to see just how fast that truck will go.
Tom
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What about improvements in torque and pedal response?
Were there any improvements in those areas and were they noticeable improvements??
Where did you purchase the chip(store,mag.what)?
Did you install yourself? If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking about?
Thanks,
I have made many improvements to the appearance and height. Now, it is time for performance. Do you feel it will help in churning
some 38x15.50's?
Were there any improvements in those areas and were they noticeable improvements??
Where did you purchase the chip(store,mag.what)?
Did you install yourself? If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking about?
Thanks,
I have made many improvements to the appearance and height. Now, it is time for performance. Do you feel it will help in churning
some 38x15.50's?
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>What about improvements in torque and pedal
>response? Were there any improvements in
>those areas and were they noticeable
>improvements??
There were noticeable improvements, but certainly not anything approaching what the vendor intimates in the advertising 'hype'. That shouldn't come as a surprise, as few (if any) products ever live up to the exaggerated claims made by the manufacturer.
Acceleration at all rpms has been increased, undoubtedly due to the advance in timing and the use of high-test gasoline. Torque?? Better as well (I think), but I can't put a number on that, either.
Superchips horsepower/torque curves may be accurate, but you'll never know unless you do before/after dynamometer testing (how many can do that?).
>Where did you purchase the
>chip(store,mag.what)? Did you install yourself?
I bought it from the local distributor listed on the Superchips website. I installed it myself.
>If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking >about? Thanks,
If you have a 1/4" socket wrench, a universal, an 18" extension bar, and a 10mm socket, then you are ready to attack removing and reinstalling the bolt which passes thru the wiring harness connector on the engine side of the firewall, and clamps it to the Powertrain Control Module located near the driver's left shin.
If you've thusfar followed all the directions, you'll think that you can now simply remove the PCM so that you can install the chip. Not that easy! Because the PCM's connector was firmly gripped by the boot that seals the firewall, I finally (and with trepidation) grabbed a screwdriver and pried the PCM loose. Following the rest of the installation instructions was easy enough.
> I have made many
>improvements to the appearance and height.
I had the 4" blocks replaced by the 2-inchers mod, and it got rid of the stupid nosediving stance that the truck came with. Did you do that mod?
>Now, it is time for performance.
>Do you feel it will help
>in churning some 38x15.50's?
Yeah, it'll help, and you'll be happy providing you're not expecting miracles. You won't need a neckbrace from the improvement in accelleration, though
I'm still planning on installing a Paxton Novi 2000 supercharger next Spring. I don't see any sense in doing that now, as the Alaska roads will soon be covered with snow and ice for the long winter. More power is no asset under those driving conditions!!
Probably the single biggest improvement with the Superchip was the reprogramming of the transmission's shift points, and the firmer, more positive shifts. Also, gas mileage improved something like 1mpg (real world), which offset the expense of having to use the more costly high-test gas. I'm pretty sure that I'm actually saving a little money on fuel, now, but I doubt if it will ever pay for the Superchip.
Nobody in his right mind would buy a SD with thoughts of operating economy, would they? There's just too many tons of metal arguing with inertia for a SuperDuty to ever be cheap to feed.
Good luck.
Be sure the shop around for the best deal before you buy the chip, because the MSRP for the V10 is $495.00, and that provides far too much profit for the vendor who has only to order the part and hand it to you in a little box. Get at least a $100 discount!
>response? Were there any improvements in
>those areas and were they noticeable
>improvements??
There were noticeable improvements, but certainly not anything approaching what the vendor intimates in the advertising 'hype'. That shouldn't come as a surprise, as few (if any) products ever live up to the exaggerated claims made by the manufacturer.
Acceleration at all rpms has been increased, undoubtedly due to the advance in timing and the use of high-test gasoline. Torque?? Better as well (I think), but I can't put a number on that, either.
Superchips horsepower/torque curves may be accurate, but you'll never know unless you do before/after dynamometer testing (how many can do that?).
>Where did you purchase the
>chip(store,mag.what)? Did you install yourself?
I bought it from the local distributor listed on the Superchips website. I installed it myself.
>If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking >about? Thanks,
If you have a 1/4" socket wrench, a universal, an 18" extension bar, and a 10mm socket, then you are ready to attack removing and reinstalling the bolt which passes thru the wiring harness connector on the engine side of the firewall, and clamps it to the Powertrain Control Module located near the driver's left shin.
If you've thusfar followed all the directions, you'll think that you can now simply remove the PCM so that you can install the chip. Not that easy! Because the PCM's connector was firmly gripped by the boot that seals the firewall, I finally (and with trepidation) grabbed a screwdriver and pried the PCM loose. Following the rest of the installation instructions was easy enough.
> I have made many
>improvements to the appearance and height.
I had the 4" blocks replaced by the 2-inchers mod, and it got rid of the stupid nosediving stance that the truck came with. Did you do that mod?
>Now, it is time for performance.
>Do you feel it will help
>in churning some 38x15.50's?
Yeah, it'll help, and you'll be happy providing you're not expecting miracles. You won't need a neckbrace from the improvement in accelleration, though
I'm still planning on installing a Paxton Novi 2000 supercharger next Spring. I don't see any sense in doing that now, as the Alaska roads will soon be covered with snow and ice for the long winter. More power is no asset under those driving conditions!!Probably the single biggest improvement with the Superchip was the reprogramming of the transmission's shift points, and the firmer, more positive shifts. Also, gas mileage improved something like 1mpg (real world), which offset the expense of having to use the more costly high-test gas. I'm pretty sure that I'm actually saving a little money on fuel, now, but I doubt if it will ever pay for the Superchip.
Nobody in his right mind would buy a SD with thoughts of operating economy, would they? There's just too many tons of metal arguing with inertia for a SuperDuty to ever be cheap to feed.
Good luck.
Be sure the shop around for the best deal before you buy the chip, because the MSRP for the V10 is $495.00, and that provides far too much profit for the vendor who has only to order the part and hand it to you in a little box. Get at least a $100 discount!
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I also have a super chip and definitely noticeable. Gains are not neck snapping, of
course, but the shifting almost is
(like
3500 rpms)
Those who are planning to get a supercharger
(like me) may want to wait for the Whipple charger by Kenne Bell rather than go for the Paxton Novi.
It's due out the end of this year and should be
awesome (i was told price should be around $3700,
complete kit-but i think it'll be more like $4k).
ohh yeah.. imagine the whipple gale banks
intake/exhaust chip (with 35x12.5 tires &
4.5 ratio)
course, but the shifting almost is
(like 3500 rpms)
Those who are planning to get a supercharger
(like me) may want to wait for the Whipple charger by Kenne Bell rather than go for the Paxton Novi.
It's due out the end of this year and should be
awesome (i was told price should be around $3700,
complete kit-but i think it'll be more like $4k).
ohh yeah.. imagine the whipple gale banks
intake/exhaust chip (with 35x12.5 tires &
4.5 ratio)
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>I also have a super chip and
>definitely noticeable. Gains are not
>neck snapping, of course, but the
>shifting almost is (like
>3500 rpms)
>Those who are planning to get a
>supercharger (like me) may want to
>wait for the Whipple charger by
>Kenne Bell rather than go for
>the Paxton Novi. It's due out
>the end of this year and
>should be awesome (i was told
>price should be around $3700, complete
>kit-but i think it'll be more
>like $4k).
I have a Banks Powerpack on order, and should have it installed in about 2 weeks. Will let you know how that affects my SD's performance.
I wasn't aware of anyone making (or planning to make} a Whipple charger for the Ford V10. Since I haven'nt purchased the Paxton yet, this revelation may change my plans. Thanks for the info.
>ohh yeah.. imagine the whipple gale
>banks intake/exhaust chip (with 35x12.5
>tires & 4.5 ratio)
>definitely noticeable. Gains are not
>neck snapping, of course, but the
>shifting almost is
(like >3500 rpms)
>Those who are planning to get a
>supercharger (like me) may want to
>wait for the Whipple charger by
>Kenne Bell rather than go for
>the Paxton Novi. It's due out
>the end of this year and
>should be awesome (i was told
>price should be around $3700, complete
>kit-but i think it'll be more
>like $4k).
I have a Banks Powerpack on order, and should have it installed in about 2 weeks. Will let you know how that affects my SD's performance.
I wasn't aware of anyone making (or planning to make} a Whipple charger for the Ford V10. Since I haven'nt purchased the Paxton yet, this revelation may change my plans. Thanks for the info.
>ohh yeah.. imagine the whipple gale
>banks intake/exhaust chip (with 35x12.5
>tires & 4.5 ratio)
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Superpleased,
Yes, please let us know how that Banks kit works out. I have been waiting for months for Banks to release the kit and as soon as I free up a little room on the ole Visa I'm gonna order mine. Where did you order your kit from? I spoke with a sales rep (George) from Banks just the other day and he told me that a performance shop where I live did dyno tests on a truck they fitted with the Banks and their numbers matched Bank's (50hp, 65 tq)
Yes, please let us know how that Banks kit works out. I have been waiting for months for Banks to release the kit and as soon as I free up a little room on the ole Visa I'm gonna order mine. Where did you order your kit from? I spoke with a sales rep (George) from Banks just the other day and he told me that a performance shop where I live did dyno tests on a truck they fitted with the Banks and their numbers matched Bank's (50hp, 65 tq)
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I downloaded all the pertinent info.
I have a strong belief that the Powerpack will allow the Superchip to shine its brightest, since breathing is not a real strong point with the V10. We'll see.
I'll let you know how it works out (in about 2 weeks).
Tom
I have a strong belief that the Powerpack will allow the Superchip to shine its brightest, since breathing is not a real strong point with the V10. We'll see.
I'll let you know how it works out (in about 2 weeks).
Tom
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I agree that Banks seriously lacks info on their site. If you call, they seem more than willing to talk, which is fine because it's their dime. I'm planning on just buying the headers and head pipes. I already have a Borla cat-back and K&N. When I talked to Geroge at Banks he didn't try to sell me their cat-back. In fact, he told me that cat-back kits don't add a whole lot of power, implying that my Borla would be fine. When I asked about mpg increases he said "none" right away. He went on to say that Ford has these engines opperating at the max and that it is really hard to increase the mpg. I find that hard to believe. Headers usually help mpg a little. Well, I suppose we'll all know in two weeks...
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>>What about improvements in torque and pedal
>>response? Were there any improvements in
>>those areas and were they noticeable
>>improvements??
>There were noticeable improvements, but certainly not
>anything approaching what the vendor intimates
>in the advertising 'hype'. That shouldn't
>come as a surprise, as few
>(if any) products ever live up
>to the exaggerated claims made by
>the manufacturer.
>Acceleration at all rpms has been increased,
>undoubtedly due to the advance in
>timing and the use of high-test
>gasoline. Torque?? Better as well (I
>think), but I can't put a
>number on that, either.
>Superchips horsepower/torque curves may be accurate, but
>you'll never know unless you do
>before/after dynamometer testing (how many can
>do that?).
>>Where did you purchase the
>>chip(store,mag.what)? Did you install yourself?
>I bought it from the local distributor
>listed on the Superchips website. I
>installed it myself.
>>If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking >about? Thanks,
>If you have a 1/4" socket wrench,
>a universal, an 18" extension bar,
>and a 10mm socket, then you
>are ready to attack removing and
>reinstalling the bolt which passes thru
>the wiring harness connector on the
>engine side of the firewall, and
>clamps it to the Powertrain Control
>Module located near the driver's left
>shin.
>If you've thusfar followed all the directions,
>you'll think that you can now
>simply remove the PCM so that
>you can install the chip. Not
>that easy! Because the PCM's connector
>was firmly gripped by the boot
>that seals the firewall, I finally
>(and with trepidation) grabbed a screwdriver
>and pried the PCM loose. Following
>the rest of the installation instructions
>was easy enough.
>> I have made many
>>improvements to the appearance and height.
>I had the 4" blocks replaced by
>the 2-inchers mod, and it got
>rid of the stupid nosediving stance
>that the truck came with. Did
>you do that mod?
No , I opted to go up in the air a little more.
I installed a Trailmaster 3" suspension Leveling Kit. The kit raised the front of the truck to within about a 1/2 inch of the rear of the truck.
Man, does it look sharp. The Kit allowed me to mount some real aggressive 35x12.50's on some 16.5x10 wheels. No problem for the V-10. In the future,I would like to put a 6 inch lift under it and see about those larger tires.
I would like to thank you for the info on the superchip and installation instructions.
Enjoy that truck and stay warm this winter.
>>Now, it is time for performance.
>>Do you feel it will help
>>in churning some 38x15.50's?
>Yeah, it'll help, and you'll be happy
>providing you're not expecting miracles. You
>won't need a neckbrace from the
>improvement in accelleration, though I'm
>still planning on installing a Paxton
>Novi 2000 supercharger next Spring. I
>don't see any sense in doing
>that now, as the Alaska roads
>will soon be covered with snow
>and ice for the long winter.
>More power is no asset under
>those driving conditions!!
>Probably the single biggest improvement with the
>Superchip was the reprogramming of the
>transmission's shift points, and the firmer,
>more positive shifts. Also, gas mileage
>improved something like 1mpg (real world),
>which offset the expense of having
>to use the more costly high-test
>gas. I'm pretty sure that I'm
>actually saving a little money on
>fuel, now, but I doubt if
>it will ever pay for the
>Superchip.
>Nobody in his right mind would buy
>a SD with thoughts of operating
>economy, would they? There's just too
>many tons of metal arguing with
>inertia for a SuperDuty to ever
>be cheap to feed.
>Good luck.
>Be sure the shop around for the
>best deal before you buy the
>chip, because the MSRP for the
>V10 is $495.00, and that provides
>far too much profit for the
>vendor who has only to order
>the part and hand it to
>you in a little box. Get
>at least a $100 discount!
>>response? Were there any improvements in
>>those areas and were they noticeable
>>improvements??
>There were noticeable improvements, but certainly not
>anything approaching what the vendor intimates
>in the advertising 'hype'. That shouldn't
>come as a surprise, as few
>(if any) products ever live up
>to the exaggerated claims made by
>the manufacturer.
>Acceleration at all rpms has been increased,
>undoubtedly due to the advance in
>timing and the use of high-test
>gasoline. Torque?? Better as well (I
>think), but I can't put a
>number on that, either.
>Superchips horsepower/torque curves may be accurate, but
>you'll never know unless you do
>before/after dynamometer testing (how many can
>do that?).
>>Where did you purchase the
>>chip(store,mag.what)? Did you install yourself?
>I bought it from the local distributor
>listed on the Superchips website. I
>installed it myself.
>>If so, what degree of difficulty are we talking >about? Thanks,
>If you have a 1/4" socket wrench,
>a universal, an 18" extension bar,
>and a 10mm socket, then you
>are ready to attack removing and
>reinstalling the bolt which passes thru
>the wiring harness connector on the
>engine side of the firewall, and
>clamps it to the Powertrain Control
>Module located near the driver's left
>shin.
>If you've thusfar followed all the directions,
>you'll think that you can now
>simply remove the PCM so that
>you can install the chip. Not
>that easy! Because the PCM's connector
>was firmly gripped by the boot
>that seals the firewall, I finally
>(and with trepidation) grabbed a screwdriver
>and pried the PCM loose. Following
>the rest of the installation instructions
>was easy enough.
>> I have made many
>>improvements to the appearance and height.
>I had the 4" blocks replaced by
>the 2-inchers mod, and it got
>rid of the stupid nosediving stance
>that the truck came with. Did
>you do that mod?
No , I opted to go up in the air a little more.
I installed a Trailmaster 3" suspension Leveling Kit. The kit raised the front of the truck to within about a 1/2 inch of the rear of the truck.
Man, does it look sharp. The Kit allowed me to mount some real aggressive 35x12.50's on some 16.5x10 wheels. No problem for the V-10. In the future,I would like to put a 6 inch lift under it and see about those larger tires.
I would like to thank you for the info on the superchip and installation instructions.
Enjoy that truck and stay warm this winter.
>>Now, it is time for performance.
>>Do you feel it will help
>>in churning some 38x15.50's?
>Yeah, it'll help, and you'll be happy
>providing you're not expecting miracles. You
>won't need a neckbrace from the
>improvement in accelleration, though
I'm >still planning on installing a Paxton
>Novi 2000 supercharger next Spring. I
>don't see any sense in doing
>that now, as the Alaska roads
>will soon be covered with snow
>and ice for the long winter.
>More power is no asset under
>those driving conditions!!
>Probably the single biggest improvement with the
>Superchip was the reprogramming of the
>transmission's shift points, and the firmer,
>more positive shifts. Also, gas mileage
>improved something like 1mpg (real world),
>which offset the expense of having
>to use the more costly high-test
>gas. I'm pretty sure that I'm
>actually saving a little money on
>fuel, now, but I doubt if
>it will ever pay for the
>Superchip.
>Nobody in his right mind would buy
>a SD with thoughts of operating
>economy, would they? There's just too
>many tons of metal arguing with
>inertia for a SuperDuty to ever
>be cheap to feed.
>Good luck.
>Be sure the shop around for the
>best deal before you buy the
>chip, because the MSRP for the
>V10 is $495.00, and that provides
>far too much profit for the
>vendor who has only to order
>the part and hand it to
>you in a little box. Get
>at least a $100 discount!