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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Is This Normal?

During glo-plug warmup my "water in fuel" lights up and stays lit until I crank the engine. Once engine is cranked it goes off.

Reason I ask is there seems to be "water in fuel" indicator problems on this board. My buddies 2002 250 does the same thing.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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What is your build date, white tag on either valve cover, what is your truck?
Do you have a good dealership?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Tim,

Thanks for the response. Its a brand new 04 250 Lariat Super Duty Crew Cab FX4. I think the build date is Nov 03...being new to the site and reading some of the posts, I'm getting kind of scared. I just purchased the truck 2 days ago for 38,000.

The water in fuel indicator only lights up when the glo plugs are warming up. As soon as the engine cranks its gone. Just wondering if its normal. This is my first truck...not to mention my first diesel.

Does the dealership automatically give you the most up to date flash when they prep it?

Anything, I need to keep an eye on or aware of? I am getting about 15 mpg driving around town. I was also thinking about getting the preditor or superchip after I get some milage on the truck. (The sales guy recommended "Hypertech" after 7000 miles).

Thanks again...any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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All these views and nobody knows if its normal?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear_Hunter
Tim,

Thanks for the response. Its a brand new 04 250 Lariat Super Duty Crew Cab FX4. I think the build date is Nov 03...being new to the site and reading some of the posts, I'm getting kind of scared. I just purchased the truck 2 days ago for 38,000.

The water in fuel indicator only lights up when the glo plugs are warming up. As soon as the engine cranks its gone. Just wondering if its normal. This is my first truck...not to mention my first diesel.

Does the dealership automatically give you the most up to date flash when they prep it?

Anything, I need to keep an eye on or aware of? I am getting about 15 mpg driving around town. I was also thinking about getting the preditor or superchip after I get some milage on the truck. (The sales guy recommended "Hypertech" after 7000 miles).

Thanks again...any advice would be appreciated.
Welcome, you bought the greatest truck ever! Most people have no trouble at all.
The water in fuel light is normal if it goes off when the engine starts (you let off the key) or at least mine does the same thing. You can crawl under it and drain the water in the seperator. You should do this once a month anyway. Water in diesel is a common problem so buy your diesel from a place that sells LOTs of diesel like a truck stop.
They probably won't reflash the truck unless it is acting up. Only let them reflash your truck as a last resort. A lot of dealers don't have this procedure down yet.
The Predator is great! Best money I ever spent! You should buy one now. No reason to wait. The predator makes a great truck fantastic! Like a rocket! You should buy it from the people who sponser this site (MotorHaven.com). They give great service. Just ask them for their best price. They can and will sell for less than they advertise. It will help the way your truck runs lot and the mileage a little. Enjoy your truck!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Choctaw Bob,

Thanks for the reply and the advice! After reading your post I will purchase the preditor! So its ok to use the preditor on a new engine then? Also is the preditor an actual chip that you put in the truck then program, or is it something you hook up to the factory chip and program? I am obviously an extreme newbee...will this be something I can do? and will I need to purchase anything else like all those guages? I'll call Motor Haven first thing monday!

...sorry if I sound ignorant, but where is the separator and what is the procedure for draining the water?
 

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Choctaw Bob,

Thanks for the reply and the advice! After reading your post I will purchase the preditor! So its ok to use the preditor on a new engine then? Also is the preditor an actual chip that you put in the truck then program, or is it something you hook up to the factory chip and program? I am obviously an extreme newbee...will this be something I can use? I'll call Motor Haven first thing monday!

...sorry if I sound ignorant, but where is the separator and what is the procedure for draining the water?
The predator is a programmer that reflashes your trucks computer through the port that is under the dash just above the throttle.
Look at your 6.0 Diesel owner's manual. The seperator is under and slightly forward of the driver's seat and bolted to the inside of the frame rail. It is also the mounting point of one of the two fuel filters that need to be changed every so often.
Don't worry about being ignorant, we all are about lots of things. We just have a few months head start on you. We are glad to be able to help. Someone helped all of us.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Click on the blue Predator word here --> Predator <<-- or there
for info...
it is a programmer that you plug into the ODB port under the dash near your right knee... Know 'puters? it's a db-9 connector ....

there are a few threads about it... just page down until you see it or use the search tool...


TIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOPS - getting SQL errors on the links to Preadtor ?!?!!?!?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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jdad and Choctaw ...Thanks!!!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Weird SQL stuff

Try this one
http://www.motorhaven.com/customer/home.php?cat=24
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Congrats on your truck Bear Hunter. No need to be scared, with new trucks it is a continual learning process. Give it another month or 2 and you will be answering questions and giving your opinion on the predator for others to use, I hope at least....Deac

PS-I read a post on draining the water and someone recommended cutting the top off an old 2 liter so you have a wide opening and draining the water into that. Sounds good to me so that is the method I will try first.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Click on the blue Predator word here --> Predator <<-- or there
for info...
it is a programmer that you plug into the ODB port under the dash near your right knee... Know 'puters? it's a db-9 connector ....

there are a few threads about it... just page down until you see it or use the search tool...


TIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOPS - getting SQL errors on the links to Preadtor ?!?!!?!?
Minor pint here. The Predator comes with the cable to connect to the OBDII port. It also has a DB9 port you can use to connect to a computer or laptop for diagnosstics and loading program updates. All you need is a DB9 male to female straight through cable. Read the "sticky" thread on the preadator above. Lots to read. There is a post that will give you the part numbers, instructions, etc. The Predator is much more than just a programmer.

Good luck wih it. I waited too long. Buy it from Motorhaven and call them for best price.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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So...do I need to worry about adding guages with the Predator?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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So...do I need to worry about adding guages with the Predator?
I added the Predator first, then the pyro gage, then boost, then oil pressure. I had no problems. I ran it in the 65 mode like Diablo recommends without gages. Even in the 65 mode you can really feel the extra 150 ft lb of torque. Makes it run like a rocket!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Diablo seems to make the 100 HP program a must for exhaust and gauges. Go to http://www.diablosports.com/FordPredDiesel.php They recommend exhaust and gauges for all performance tunes, but when you read the manual (the manual is on the diablo web site under downloads) it says "DiabloSport 100 HP designed for maximum performance, requires complete exhaust and down pipe also gauges EGT - boost." So you can go with out the exhaust and gauges. Just don't go crazy with the new power.
 
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