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I am working on building a brushguard for my 79 Bronco, and eventually want to add a full cage. My question is if I welding pipes that run from the brushguard and attach them to the cage is that a good idea. The brushguard will replace my bumper. The brushguard is going to have a center hoop and a bar running over and bending down and back to protect the headlights/front of the fender. Thanks for any help.
I don't think it would be that good of an idea. do you want to risk bumping a tree a little too hard with what should be your bumper and accidentally tweak the cage?
that sounds like it is begging for lots of trouble, including what hoxiii said. I was trying to picture how you would tie them in. Through the firewall?
Or is he talking about an exo-cage?? I'm confused here but if it's a regular roll cage you're building inside the Bronco don't connect it to the bumper. Bumpers take a lot of abuse, even a heavy duty bumper. You want to be sure you can remove it fairly easy if it ever gets trashed or if you need to be able to get to anything behind it.
Last edited by ivanribic; Mar 21, 2004 at 09:47 PM.
Yea the only way i can see that working is if it was an exo cage other wise there would be way to much body work for it to ever be worth it. plus is there even any plus's to doing this cause i cant see any
Personally, I don't even like tieing in exo cages to front bumpers, even though its done all the time. Like everybody mentioned, bumpers take plenty of knocks on the trail and having those shock loads transmitted through your cage = metal fatigue & minute cracks in the welds over time. All will look well and then when you roll it your cage falls apart when you need it most. I don't like exo-cages either, frankly. Keep the cage in the rig and off the obstacles untill your upside down when you need it.
thanks everyone for your opinion's. jason i like your truck but was thinking of running it through the hood and attach it at the firewall with a plate bolted through to another that would tie into the interior cage. it would unbolt and you could unbolt the bumper and the fornt of the cage would be off. just me thinking of something cool looking that would also serve a purpose. i am definently building both just wondering about connecting them.
I hate exo's. If it's a trail rig then let it be beat. If it's not then why the hell would you want an ugly looking exo on it?
Just stick to a good old fashioned roll cage and a heavy duty bumper. There are no advantages to attaching the two and if you get a good front end impact you do not want that force being transferred into the cab. It's just plain dangerous.
Originally posted by ivanribic I hate exo's. If it's a trail rig then let it be beat. If it's not then why the hell would you want an ugly looking exo on it?
Damn, and I was starting to think I was the only one
I'm not sure how much different dirt track cages and 4x4 cages are, but when I ran dirt track, we had to have a loop in front for the wrecker to pick the car up with, kinda like a brush guard. Some guys tied it into the front loop of the roll cage, but I didn't. When those guys got hit really hard, it bent the loop in and tweaked the front loop of the cage, and they would have to replace it. When I hit something really hard (which was every Fri and Sat night mostly) mine got bent over good, but it was all that got bent, not the frame of the rest of the cage, so I only had to make a new one and bold it on.
Like I said though, not sure how this can relate to 4x4 cages, cause i'm not sure how much stuff your planning of ramming really, really hard. But if it was me I would definatly not tie it in.
And on the exo cage stuff, why the heck would anyone want that crap on the outside of thier truck? Imho, thats just ugly.
I've seen one truck that I have ever liked with an Exo on it, but it was strong, and to make it strong that means a whole lot of extra piping, and a whole lot of extra piping means a whole lot of extra weight. The cons outweight the pro (pro, as in one good thing, being one time protection).
Like the others mentioned before, running into something hard would push the bumper back, pushing the bars back, putting stress on the roll cage, probably breaking it. (edit): That would be the one time usage.
Do an interior role-cage and a bumper separate. Make them both bolt ons, but with good, solid mounts (obviously).
By the way, Pro, do you have an interior roll cage?
Nah, its on my to-do list though. My in-bed roll bar is hella stout and tied into my frame. I have rolled it once and only suffered a crease in the roof of the cab I was able to pop out, and a fubared fender which I replaced. My final plan is an in cab cage with buckets and five point restraints.
A bit off subject but I was going to ask you about that Pro. Do you have any special restraint system in there now or is it just the regular seatbelts? Reason I ask is I feel like I'm getting dismembered when I do some mild wheeling with the lap and shoulder belts on. I couldn't imagine the hardcore stuff you do without a better restraint. One of these days my upper and lower body will seperate at the waist due to a nice bounce with a lap belt.
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