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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Halliburton/Cheney

Hi All,

As Fordfaggiole thought, we could use a topic on this and I figured one of the best ways on the web to do it is with a link to Google.com

http://www.google.com/search?q=Halli...&start=90&sa=N

I would imagine over the next few months, leading to the elections, the links will reflect the pending lawsuits and investigations...I went thru the first nine pages this morning and no matter what side of the fence you are sitting, it makes some interesting reading...

Personally(even before this morning), I believe the truth is being suppressed as with most of the Cheney Adminstration's policies and mandates...energy, no_child_left_behind, war, medicare_bill...

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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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I too think there is a lot of information being kept from the public.It seems Halliburton ,being one of the biggest contractors in Iraq,is coming under attack for not employing enough local Iraqi people when they take contracts for the U.S. government in Iraq.I'm still looking for the employment stastics on that issue.If we are going to rebuild Iraq,surely we should be creating jobs for them.As for Bush and Harken,those records are a little trickier to uncover.Seems a lot of them are available to the public.Any company Bush had dealings with,seems to attemp to keep the records of his business dealings under wraps.Those records should be made available to the public,as well as records on Kerrys business dealings.Seems a lot of special interest groups were quite pleased with the Cheney -Bush ticket.I can't believe that their former oil buddies had no contact with them once elected. Halliburton seemed to benefit the most,as near as I can tell so far.These are ethics questions.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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So, what other compay out there does what Haliburton does?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Hi John,

Originally posted by Fordfaggiole
Those records should be made available to the public,as well as records on Kerrys business dealings.
Agreed...Kerry 'should open his books', I don't believe the 'closet' can be as large as the fellas' already in the WhiteHouse...

On quite a few of the pages I went to this morning were Iraqi Oil Workers saying they didn't even need Halliburton there, in Iraq...all of Iraq's oil trucks(and men) were sitting idol while watching Halliburtons trucks(and men) move the fuel around the country...

Even on their website, they ask for 'non-muslim' workers, such as laborers, drivers...hmmm...you make a good point about the jobs...would also like to see if they were/are mandated to hire the local folks...

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I'll admit right off I'm not up on everything with Halliburton. In Iraq though I can see why they are using U.S. workers. First off, it is good for the U.S. economy, and most of these workers are probably familiar with how Halliburton operates and wants things done. I can also see them being a little leary about highering Iraq workers. Yes, I wouldn't mind them putting some of them to work. However, with the different bombings going on, what would happen if you get 10 workers driving oil trucks and decide to use them as bombs. There are other possible problems too. It wouldn't be easy being in Halliburton management and having to sort through all the possible problems.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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You could try employing the locals like the UN did, then got their building blown up for thier trouble.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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So, what other compay out there does what Haliburton does?
Don't confuse them with the facts, now. That's not fair.
Just because Halliburton is the largest oil services company in the world and one of only a few companies that could even attempt to bring order to Iraq's chaos is no reason to support them. After all, they're a big corporation and we all know that big corporations are evil..EVIL, I SAY, EVIL!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Fordfaggiole
I too think there is a lot of information being kept from the public.It seems Halliburton ,being one of the biggest contractors in Iraq,is coming under attack for not employing enough local Iraqi people when they take contracts for the U.S. government in Iraq.I'm still looking for the employment stastics on that issue.If we are going to rebuild Iraq,surely we should be creating jobs for them.........
Truly a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't". If Halliburton employed nothing but Iraqis, the liberals would scream about lost jobs and our money going to foreign workers. But, with US workers, liberals can scream about lack of local content. Give me a break!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Descartes
Truly a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't". If Halliburton employed nothing but Iraqis, the liberals would scream about lost jobs and our money going to foreign workers. But, with US workers, liberals can scream about lack of local content. Give me a break!
Halliburton/ Cheney Can anybody tell that there is a confict of interst here. War = s More money for the special intrest. We go in and blow them up & and payoff the special intrest groups to put things back. I for one think it wrong for Halliburton to be doing businiss with the goverment when you have VP Cheney in office. (IMO)
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Descartes
Don't confuse them with the facts, now. That's not fair.
Just because Halliburton is the largest oil services company in the world and one of only a few companies that could even attempt to bring order to Iraq's chaos is no reason to support them. After all, they're a big corporation and we all know that big corporations are evil..EVIL, I SAY, EVIL!
Which came first, the chaos or the desire to profit from restoring order? I don't think corporations immoral, only amoral which is no comfort.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Descartes
Truly a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't". If Halliburton employed nothing but Iraqis, the liberals would scream about lost jobs and our money going to foreign workers. But, with US workers, liberals can scream about lack of local content. Give me a break!
What do liberals have to do with it?It's a case of halliburton employing foreign workers while the Iraq people see foreign workers doing jobs they themselves could do.The Iraq people are the ones who need the jobs.We are nation building,so why not let them build it themselves?Employing Iraqi workers might change a few minds towards the U.S. at the same time.IMO.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fordfaggiole
What do liberals have to do with it?It's a case of halliburton employing foreign workers while the Iraq people see foreign workers doing jobs they themselves could do.The Iraq people are the ones who need the jobs.We are nation building,so why not let them build it themselves?Employing Iraqi workers might change a few minds towards the U.S. at the same time.IMO.
If I was running the show in Iraq's rebuilding, I'd employ as many Americans as I could. That way, I wouldn't have to worry about one of my workers coming to work with 5 pounds of C4 strapped to his body. Sad but true.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by sglaine
Halliburton/ Cheney Can anybody tell that there is a confict of interst here. War = s More money for the special intrest. We go in and blow them up & and payoff the special intrest groups to put things back. I for one think it wrong for Halliburton to be doing businiss with the goverment when you have VP Cheney in office. (IMO)
I guess it's time to dredge out the old antiwar slogan from Vietnam. "War is good business; Invest your son". Surely you don't REALLY believe that we went to war in Iraq just so Halliburton could make a few bucks?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Descartes
Don't confuse them with the facts, now. That's not fair.
Just because Halliburton is the largest oil services company in the world and one of only a few companies that could even attempt to bring order to Iraq's chaos is no reason to support them. After all, they're a big corporation and we all know that big corporations are evil..EVIL, I SAY, EVIL!
Iraq's chaos???

Bush, Cheney, heck, America brought on the chaos...there was no one blowing up the Iraqi people before we began the war...A large percent of the world's "civilized" leaders knew Sadaam was contained and not associated with 911...even some of us folks here in the states that don't consider themselves as liberals...

Haliburton and it's connections were as much a part of the whole problem as it is an 'angel' in it's repair...

There are numerous companys that could have handled delivering food to the troops, mail to the troups, put up shelters, removed the garbage, etc., if they were only given the opportunity to the contracts...

There are numerous companys that could have overbilled the pentagon for fuel, billed for hundreds of thousands of meals that were never served, etc., if they were only given the opportunity to the contracts...

Gheez, I truly don't believe I'll get confused on this one...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Descartes
I guess it's time to dredge out the old antiwar slogan from Vietnam. "War is good business; Invest your son". Surely you don't REALLY believe that we went to war in Iraq just so Halliburton could make a few bucks?
I feel bad for you if you think for 1 sec that war is good business do you have any concept to what the vietnam vets are going though with some of there heads all messed up and that nasty agent orenge stuff that has made them sick. Just think what the long term afect these guys over in Iraq are going to be going though. And if you think thats allright for Halliburton to get rich off of this war so Cheney can get even richer I my friend fell sorry for you.
 
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