Weiand intake and cam
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Weiand intake and cam
I know there are other threads in this forum about cams, but I still haven't found the info I'm looking for. I'm rebuilding a 351M for my '76 F150 4x4 and can't quite deside on a cam. The truck is running 38" tires, has NP435, and as far as I know 3.55 gears. I would also like to put in 4.56's. I would like a lot of torque (to pull a house down) but also a little more horse when I stab the gas. What cam should I go with? I've been looking at Comp's DEH and high energy. Also, I have been looking at the Weiand 8010 intake. How does this compare to the Edelbrock Performer?
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I don't have any experience with Comp's or Weiands but I do have an Edelbrock performer. It is not the cam you want. It is a good cam but it doesn't provide the low end torque you desire. My cam is in a 408M Ford LTD, the cam doesn't really seem to start pulling until around 1800 rpm. No good in a truck but acceptable in a car.
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I have a comp cams 268/218 494 lift. I'm running a stock 2v manifold and a 500 cfm holley 2300. I can turn my 15.5/35/15 TSL SX's with ease. I have a C6 and 3.50 gears. I can't complain with this single pattern cam. It pulls down low, and seems to rev up well also. For a heavy truck I can get up and go pretty quick.
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Originally posted by Sanders
I don't have any experience with Comp's or Weiands but I do have an Edelbrock performer. It is not the cam you want. It is a good cam but it doesn't provide the low end torque you desire. My cam is in a 408M Ford LTD, the cam doesn't really seem to start pulling until around 1800 rpm. No good in a truck but acceptable in a car.
Sanders
I don't have any experience with Comp's or Weiands but I do have an Edelbrock performer. It is not the cam you want. It is a good cam but it doesn't provide the low end torque you desire. My cam is in a 408M Ford LTD, the cam doesn't really seem to start pulling until around 1800 rpm. No good in a truck but acceptable in a car.
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The Weiand 8010 has a more generous carb mounting area, and should be less prone to vacuum leaks than the Edelbrock 2171. It also has a higher RPM rating, which may not be of interest to anyone here.
The Dual energy cams have about the same low end torque as a single grind cam, but have a little better high end. This is at the expense of a few degrees of overlap. The 255DEH has great low end torque, as does the 260H. Both fall off at higher RPMs.
The 265DEH and the 268H have better power at high RPM, but give up a little low end torque.
The best choice is a 260HR. The roller has the most torque and high RPM power, but is expensive to buy and more money to install.
The Dual energy cams have about the same low end torque as a single grind cam, but have a little better high end. This is at the expense of a few degrees of overlap. The 255DEH has great low end torque, as does the 260H. Both fall off at higher RPMs.
The 265DEH and the 268H have better power at high RPM, but give up a little low end torque.
The best choice is a 260HR. The roller has the most torque and high RPM power, but is expensive to buy and more money to install.
Last edited by danlee; Mar 14, 2004 at 07:34 PM.
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Originally posted by danlee
[The best choice is a 260HR. The roller has the most torque and high RPM power, but is expensive to buy and more money to install.
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[The best choice is a 260HR. The roller has the most torque and high RPM power, but is expensive to buy and more money to install.
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Check the 'ideas on cam' thread for torque numbers.
PAW list the Comp Cams 260HR for $249.95, then you need roller lifters. A set of replacement 5.0 liter Ford roller lifters go for about $150.00/set. Comp Cams Retro-fit Hydraulic Roller cam kit (Com-31-1000) goes for $43.95. The pushrods are shorter, but you need a pushrod length checker to determine the correct length after the heads are installed. The length checker is $13.95. The pushrods are $20.00 to $85.00/set depending on whether they are hardened or stock type. I am using 8.8" Trick Flow Hardened pushrods. Comp Cams 924-16 valve springs are $109.95. If you go to roller rockers the Crane guideplate conversion is $84.95. The Crane Energizer Roller Rockers are $209.95. there may be some machining involved to install the valve springs and seats. Then you need a variety of other valve hardware. Of course you need a little machine work on the block to install the Comp Cams Roller Conversion kit.
PAW list the Comp Cams 260HR for $249.95, then you need roller lifters. A set of replacement 5.0 liter Ford roller lifters go for about $150.00/set. Comp Cams Retro-fit Hydraulic Roller cam kit (Com-31-1000) goes for $43.95. The pushrods are shorter, but you need a pushrod length checker to determine the correct length after the heads are installed. The length checker is $13.95. The pushrods are $20.00 to $85.00/set depending on whether they are hardened or stock type. I am using 8.8" Trick Flow Hardened pushrods. Comp Cams 924-16 valve springs are $109.95. If you go to roller rockers the Crane guideplate conversion is $84.95. The Crane Energizer Roller Rockers are $209.95. there may be some machining involved to install the valve springs and seats. Then you need a variety of other valve hardware. Of course you need a little machine work on the block to install the Comp Cams Roller Conversion kit.
