We just moments ago pulled the last piston out of what I thought was a 360, the crank has a half moon and the number 35 stamped on it. the casting number on the connecting rod is c7te-a. Several sites indicate this is a 361, is there any difference between a 360 and a361? The Bore is 4.05, some slight rust prevented us from measuring the stroke. I know some of you have the code books if you could help we would greatly appreciate it.

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My book seems to tell me that they are 330 rods. We know that's not the case, as you measured the bore at 4.05". However, not all combinations are listed in the book. Try and get block and head numbers, that will tell us more.

One way to positively make a identification as to FE or FT would be to measure the crankshaft nose diameter. 1.375" = FE, and 1.750" = FT.

 

330 gots a 3.51" stroke like the 361 so the rods are probaly found in both of them?

 

The stroke is just 3.5" I do believe but the rods were identical to the FE long rods.

 

You'll find C7TE-A rods in 360's too, don't know why the books don't say that.

 

Block number is D4TE the heads are C8AE. Also I was expecting the intake manifold to be heavier than it is. It weighed about 60 lbs or so. I put a strong magnet to it and it appears to be semi Ferris. Did ford make heads out of anything besides aluminum or steel? The manget did not stick to the intake like it did the block.

 

This might also help, the intake is for a 4bbl carb

thx

 

D4TE can be a FE or FT block. C8AE heads are FE only, is there a letter after the "E" or on the other side of the spark plug? Stock FE heads were either iron or aluminum. A 4bbl is not stock on a 360 (or a 361 either). Are there any numbers on the intake?


Oh, I love your thread title! Reminds me of that line in Mr. Mom where Ron comments on Jack’s remodeling, hilarious!

Ron Richardson: Are you going to use a 220 connection on that? Jack Butler: 220, 221, whatever it takes.

 

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Thanks for getting the title, its one of my favorite shows.

On the other side of the spark plug is 8090R, the intake is stamped with two numbers SF17 and C5AE94251.

 

hey rv4alex i have a ?? about your stang

 

rv4alex, is it possible to get some pics of those numbers? Sometimes they can look like other numbers or letters because those don't jive. The heads could be either C6AE-6090R or C8AE-6090H. The intake could be a C5AE-9425C. If they're C6 heads that's good, C8's are ok though. The C5 manifold is the standard 4bbl. for the car 352 and 390, it's cast iron right?

 

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I tried to respond but the server would not let me in! I cleaned off the manifold and heads. You were right, the heads are C6AE-6090R the intake is a C5AE-9425C. The intake appears to be ferrus, however it is about 1/3 the weight of the 400M intake I rebuilt last year. I used a very powerfull magnet to test the intake, it does not stick with the same force as when the magnet is placed on the block. It definatly has Iron in it, but not as much as in the block and it weights in the neighborhood of 60 lbs.
Any idea how hard it would be to wedge this into a 69 fast back after appropriate upgrades? Is that a stupid idea, the mustang is in great condition and I do not want to screw it up.

Thx

 

Hrm, a 360 in a mustang. Now that would be unique, I dont think anyone has ever put a 360 in a mustang. 390 yes, but never a 360.

I say go for it. Here's what I'd do. Get a Crane roller cam, number 349521. Get the appropriate roller lifters. (duh). Beef up the valve train, with heavy duty rocker stands, rocker shafts, and end stands. Get a good set of roller rockers. Get some custom forged flat top pistons with approximately 1.85" compression height, I hear Ross Pistons is a good manufacturer. They will have to be custom, as I dont think anyone stocks this piston. After that, get a set of ARP hardware for the rods and mains, so your bottom end doesnt fly apart.

If you want, upgrade it to a 390 with a crank and rods from a 390. That way, the pistons will be stocked by various places and wont have to be ordered custom. You'll also make a little more torque.

Whatever you do, GET IT BALANCED!

Next, have fun!

 

Those are good heads with lots of performance potential. They have the tall lower riser ports and so does the intake too but it's really not a performance piece as you'll notice it's kinda flat.

If you wanna stick it in a 'stang, the heads need to have the diagonal bolt holes on the exhaust. Intermediate cars used different manifolds on the FE, the logs won't fit without banging on the shock towers. If your heads don't have them, they can be drilled as the pads for them are already there. These engines are heavy, I'd do a 390 upgrade to make it all worthwhile.

 

A little off topic, but here goes. I read a paper put out by an FE guy that was all about fixing up FEs and he made the comment that he could set up an FE that would smoke Chebbys on the circle track.

I'm guessing he was using a 352 because, aren't they limited to 350ci and a two barrel? I am also guessing he went with a build up for higher RPMs.

There is another post here somewhere about the 360 being a good engine to put a blower on because of the shorter stroke.

Too bad everyone here starts out there post with "I only have $500 to spend...."

I, for one, would like to find out what a "small block" FE could do in a light car.

ARRRGH, I can't find the page where the paper was. It was a scanned image sort of thing that I printed out for myself. I thought it was DSC but it wasn't. Oh well.