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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Question Possible Coil Pack Problem

I posted earlier about a problem where I'm getting a miss(periodic jerking). It seems to happen when it shifts into overdrive and the RPM's drop to around 1100 and I'm going about 45 mph uphill. It seems to be getting worse and is now happening at other times than just 45 mph uphill.

Someone on the board said it sounded like a coil pack. My mechanic suggested that he replace coil pack 4 although we have not had a check engine light come on so we don't know if that is the culprit. It costs about $150 to replace it but I'm hesitant without knowing for sure that is the problem.

Is there a way to determine which coil pack may be bad, if indeed it is a coil pack, without guessing that it is #4 and taking my chances. I hate to think that I could pay $150 and have not fixed the problem.

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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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Try changing the tranny fluid if that hasn't been done lately.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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I have changed the tranny fluid within the last couple of months. Let me know if there are other ideas. Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Possible Coil Pack Problem

It costs about $150 to replace it but I'm hesitant without knowing for sure that is the problem.

Is there a way to determine which coil pack may be bad, if indeed it is a coil pack, without guessing that it is #4 and taking my chances. I hate to think that I could pay $150 and have not fixed the problem.
Agreed. Don't do the trial and error method, it could end up costing you a small fortune. These vehciles powertrains are constantly monitored by the PCM (powertrain control module). If there is an engine problem, a code will be stored in the module and can be read with a code reader.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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I am feeling the same problem. So, I changed the fuel filter (it needed it anyway). Well, I should have done this first, pulled out the Superchips Micro-tuner and checked the OBD codes. It's telling me there is a mis-fire detected on cylinder #7. So, I think I have a bad coil pack. Is it hard to change just the coil pack? I know from reading here that it's a pain to change the plugs, but hoping just the coil pack is easier.

You should be able to go to Advance Auto or Autozone and ask them if they can run an OBD code reader on your truck.
 

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Is it hard to change just the coil pack?
Not if you can get your hand in there (it's held on by a small bolt). #7 is the third from the front on the driver's side. You should be able to access it fairly easily. #4 is the PITA.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by khmorse
there is a mis-fire detected on cylinder #7. So, I think I have a bad coil pack. Is it hard to change just the coil pack?

I'm definitely not trying to talk you out of changing #7 yourself... FWIW, when I did mine there was a small cannister attached to the fuel rail next to #7 that was a real "PITA" to work around. I didn't have to remove the fuel rail, but it did take a lot of patience. It's definitely not as bad as #4...but close.

Also, COPS are about half the price at Advance Auto or O'Reilly's when compared to the dealership...

Good luck & let us know if that fixes the problem.
 

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Thanks. Hopefully it won't bee too bad.
 
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How old are the plugs? They could cause a misfire.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Original plugs, 4 years old. It is a 2000 Exp 4.6 with 70,000 miles on it.
 
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Well, first thing I would do is change the plugs. That could cure the problem right there. Do it yourself if you are mechanically inclined, it is time consuming, but not too hard. I'm in the middle of it right now.
 
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I'm in the middle of it right now. [/B]

At this rate, you must be paying yourself by the hour.
 
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Well, the first thing I would do is change the plugs.
If you do swap plugs be sure to go with the Motorcraft Double Platinum...other brands are known to cause even more problems.

Plug install tips:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/framered...parkplugs.html
 
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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How old are the plugs? They could cause a misfire.
I have 43,000 on my plugs. I was thinking if I am going to pull off the #7 COP and replace it, I might want to throw a new plug in there at the same time. I'd hate to put it all back together and find I still have a mis-fire. I don't know if the mileage (or I) am ready for a full plug change. @ $2.77 a plug from Motorcraft, I guess it's not too big of an expense to replace the one now and then stick all new plugs in again in another 30,000 miles.
 
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Mr. Logic, I replaced my #4 coil pack at 52,000 miles, 1999 E/B 5.4.

My Check Engine light was on and it threw the code. If you don't have a code yet, I'd go for the new plugs.

If you crawl up on the engine and look at the #4 (passenger side, rear of engine), you may see some damage to the pack. Mine was cracked and had a small amount of residue/oil around it. Once I put a bright light in there, it was obvious that was the problem.

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