I'm trying to find out if the '65 CC I'm picking up at the end of the month has seat belts. (waiting for a call back)

In the mean time... correct me if I'm wrong but I think the '65 did not come standard with them but had the attaching points in the floor??

If it does NOT have the belts, I would like to get some before the long trip home.

Where would be a good place to find them?

The truck has peacock color seats, any chance to get the straps to match?

Thanks for the help,

Guy

 

After posting this, I found a couple of places on the web.

This one:
http://www.julianos.com/lift_latch_seat_belts.html
looks like it may even have a color that would be close.

What I don't know is what the truck comes with?

The guys at Julianos say you may need the hardware kit that's another $15 per person. But IF the truck has the attachment points in the floor already, I would think all I would need is a nut and bolt?

Could someone please look at theirs and let me know what I may need. If possible maybe email me a photo?!

Thanks
for the help.
Guy

 

55cub,
My 64 had the attachment points in the floor. All I had to do is bolt the belts down. I installed 3 sets that I got from AutoZone, for 'bout 19.00 per set.

 

65 has attachment points. Moreover, you CAN put in shoulder as well, at least in a 65 cab. Requires rigging a 3rd point at the upper point, but doable. I have a link for a place that has the 3 point belts and instructions, but its at home, and I'm at work. (waiting for test results, can't go home yet) I have removed by lap belts and have the shoulder belts waiting for install, once the exterior work is done. I have 3, one year old black lap belts that are yours for the shipping if you want them.

 

Check this thread
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...hreadid=211804

 

http://www.gemstreetrods.com/Seat%20Belts.htm

These guys -- gem street rods -- they have shoulder belt sets, and instructions how to get your upper anchor points set up too.

Some smart boys will say " but the 65 cab wasn't designed for shoulder belts -- the upper anchor might pull out in an accident" To which I reply "If you are in a severe enough accident that your shoulder belt fails, do you think you would have been better off with JUST a lap belt?"

I think the seat/shoulder belts and the single pot master cylinder are the two most dangerous safety deficeits in the 61-66 trucks. IMHO

 

Aside from having the rolling fuel bomb inches away from your backside?!?!

Honestly, have you ever seen a passenger car of any make or vintage that had the highly combustible fuel cell under the passenger and driver seat? Or under the backseat? I look at that all the time and think, "How could anyone, regardless of recent national safety rule or government standard conformity or anything of the like, at any point along the evolution of common sense and automotive sensiblity even POSSIBLY think that putting the flammable/explosive fuel in the same compartment with the passengers was a good idea?"

It flat-out boggles the mind in my opinion to try to figure out what the heck FoMoCo engineers were thinking on this one, and I don't think enough is made of this fact when all of us are giving advice to all of these newbies on where to start their restomods with all of these simple mods (ps, pb, disc conversion, etc.), that we don't say "Get that tank outta there ASAP!!"

I would challenge anyone to tell me that buying a 65-68 Mustang tank and relocating it between the frame rails, even with all the re-running of lines and filler neck issues, sending unit, is not just as easy if not easier than heaving a big ol' ps box up on the frame, plumbing it, installing a new column, mounting the pump, etc. OR driving out kingpins and switching I-beams and the like for disc conversion OR adding and plumbing a proportioning valve, booster etc. for pb.

Can I get an AMEN from the congregation, brothers and sisters!

I feel a crusade coming on!

 

Has there ever been any statistics on the fuel tank busting or exploding? I haven't seen any, but then again, I have never seen a million dollars, but I know it exists.

 

Not that I'm aware of, Tim. More of an intuitive thing for me, just looking at it and saying, "DANG, that doesn't make horse sense!"

And it's so easy to change. More room in the cab, safer, cooler looking, etc etc.

 

Yea, makes perfect horse sense, if you know what I mean.

I plan on doing that upgrade down the road. Hopefully before the bon fire. LOL

 

I agree that the fuel tank thing "makes sense" though I do not think that Ford ended up with a lot of problems or lawsuits from it. I have never seen any reliable concrete data to the effect that more fires occured.

In fact, compared to say a Pinto, where the location of the fuel tank was conducive to an explosion on impact, the behind the seat location in a pickup is actually pretty safe. Really a question to consider -- do you want to protect the tank and keep it from being punctured/ignited in the first place, or do you want to locate it somewhere as far away from the driver as possible? What if that location is more likely to catch fire than the behind the seat location?

I'll admit to playing devils advocate here, a little at least. But I do know this -- the NHTSA required dual cylinder masters, later they required front disc brakes. The required seat belts, later required shoulder belts. So far as I know, Ford moved the tank on their own. That tells me something in and of itsself.

Just my idle musings -- not meant to inflame anyone.

later....

 

I am in agreement with the percieved safety hazard the gasoline tank behind the seat represents. However, I do question the idea that "more room in the cab" is an additional advantage. Granted, there will be storage room behind the seat that wasn't there with the tank there, but how many of us drive without the seat pushed back so far as to have the seatback against the cab. If that is the case, relocating the tank will not allow it to slide back any further.

 

I due remember Ford having problems with side impact accidents involving thier truck's either in the late 70's and early 80' s with gas tanks outside the frame well under the bed; can't recall the exact year; but it also involved a plastic tanks as well; I do believe?
Just my 2cent's worth to add.

C.C.