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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Have a small problem with my charging system, I have a gel cell battery about four years old and just changed the insides of my alt to boost it to a 90amp. The problem I am having is if I am out in the mud or get stuck and have to you my winch for run both electric fans on high it drains the battery. and robs power from the igintion system and kills the truck. If i charge the battery and drive daily i have no problem. My delma also is why would the alt not be recharging the system

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Did you have this problem before you changed the innerds of the alternator? Is this why you increased the amperage of the alternator? You still probably are not putting out the amperage to run everthing with your winch and electric fans on. Most dual electric fans pull 25 amps. by them self. You might want to look into putting in a second battery with an isolator and run all your accesories off your second battery.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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jell cell battery is 4 plus years old. Would a heavy load cause battery to drain faster than under normal conditions?
Thanks for input
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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It also depends on where and how you have your heavy loads wired. The best place is have the heavy loads hooked directly to the battery post or to the starter relay post that goes to the battery. That way they can have the full potiental of the battery when they need it.

If you have your heavy loads hooked into the fuse box, or somewhere else down the line from the battery, then the heavy loads will pull down the rest of the system because they are hogging what little power is available through the small factory wiring feeding the fuse box.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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I thought only R/V Deep Cell batteries were made with GEL.

Is this the main truck battery you are using (ie: Starting battery)
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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the winch is hooked directly to the battery and the fans run from the top post to inside the cab and back out to them all on 12 gauge wire

I only have one battery in the truck
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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So is that a automotive GEL battery or a Deep Vell battery ?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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automotive gell. Looked at a new one today at napa and it was a deep cell gell for 150
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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A second Battery with an isolator still might be your best bet, just be sure that everything in your cahrging system is functioning properly first. Have you had the alternator with the new guts checked?Have you had your battery load tested at full charge to verify it's still good? ( A gel type or Optima is at 100 % at 13.0v). Also checking for a parasitic draw if this is a new condition.

In answer to your question, yes, A heavy load will cause your battery to drain if the load exceeds the output of the alternator.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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You shouldn't be trying to run a starter with a Deep Cell battery.
They were designed for slow drain & slow charge usage.

I suggest getting a reg battery w/1000 CCA for the operation of the truck & the R/V deep cell battery gets used for the winch & Lighting and secured by a isolator.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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Starter runs fine on a deep cycle as long as the cca is adequate for your application, the starter doesnt know the difference. It's just not nessasary to spend the extra bucks for a deep cycle for your starting battery .That is ,if your using your starting battery properly and not deep discharging it. If you plan on staying with a single battery and taking the chance on discharging it too far to start your truck properly, then I would use the deep cycle as it wont be ruined by the deep discharges, unlike a starting battery that is not made to withstand numerous deep discharging.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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I am looking at putting a deep cell battery in as a secondary with a isolator but the winch will drain the battery fast not slow
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Deep Cycle is what you want for your secondary. Optima and similar gel type batteries will give you what you need for amperage for winching applications.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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I suggest a larger alternator to go w/ the dual batteries even though the duals might not be necessary they're nice to have. In my offroad club almost everyone who has a winch has 150 amp alternator, and thats w/o the strain of electric fans adding to it. One of them even has a 190 amp. The 90 amp alternator prolly just isn't strong enough to keep the battery charged while winching.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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might be an idea where did they get the 150 amp alts at
 
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