Notices

Code 18! AHH!

Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:24 AM
  #16  
Bruce P's Avatar
Bruce P
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Ontario Canada
Motor swap 5.0L HO or Non HO
Be carefull with a motor swap to a 5.0L HO engine without a computer swap. The non-HO computer (usually in a truck) will not run an HO motor properly. The timing advancment and injection sequencing, MAS etc are not the same .(The computers and sensors are different.)
I found this out the hard way when I put an HO built motor in my truck without an HO computer and wiring harness,. It was easier (cheaper) to change the cam back to a NON HO instead. Usually stick with a stock cam as well unless you are prepared to make some serious computer and sensor upgrades.

Regards
Bruce P
 
Reply
Old Mar 17, 2004 | 08:42 PM
  #17  
Fordater's Avatar
Fordater
New User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
SO????? Since I didn't make the swap, could part of my performance problems be an HO computer with a non HO engine if so how can I tell the differance? Could this affect the Tach? any advice would help

Chuck
 
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:25 AM
  #18  
EPNCSU2006's Avatar
EPNCSU2006
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 44
From: Concord, NC
That won't affect the tach. All the truck electronics can run an HO mustang motor. It might have a problem with the cam, it might not. If you are running the stock computer, then it's not HO. HO 302's were only in cars, never in the trucks - at least they weren't labeled as such. The tach gets signal from the negative terminal of the coil, so it has to be either a problem in the wiring from the coil to the dash, or a problem in the dash itself.
 
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 07:31 AM
  #19  
Bruce P's Avatar
Bruce P
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Ontario Canada
Fordater
You mentioned the motor put in the Bronco was a VIN for a 5.0L HO. So I assume you have a 5.0 L HO installed in your truck. As mentioned buy the previous memo from "EPNCSU2006" HO computers were never installed in Ford trucks . These truck computers will run an HO motor but will run it differently and not very well.
WHY?: There is a difference in the timing advancement for the both the spark control and the fuel injection sequencing built into the HO computer due to the HO cam. (It has to due with the longer duration of the cam in HO motors). Therefore Truck computers would not do a very go job running an HO motor.
It will run but run rough at idle and use much more fuel at idle. Also it will not reach its full horse power potential due to these slight variances in the compters by not timing the spark and and fuel injection for the HO engine.
Best fix is to change the cam back to a stock NON HO cam. You should first confirm the computer system is the original truck system for a NON HO cam. This can be done by reading the serial number on the computer control box and verifying with a Ford dealer on the computer type. Believe me I've been this road.
If you want to change the computer you will need a entire new wiring harness, two O2 sensors and a MAS system to put on the motor, plus the cost of a new computer. The cam is cheaper.
(Possibly the engine swap gave you the O2 sensors (On the lower end of the exhaust from a mustang) and MAS. But you need to check????

Bruce P
 
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:52 AM
  #20  
EPNCSU2006's Avatar
EPNCSU2006
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,557
Likes: 44
From: Concord, NC
Just to note, I have heard that a stock HO mustang cam is about the biggest the truck computer can run. I would think that it would be ok, however, like was said earlier, you might not realize the full potential of the motor. I'd leave the stock truck computer though, since it is quite a task to swap to MAF.
 
Reply
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:27 PM
  #21  
Fordater's Avatar
Fordater
New User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
thanks guys, looks like I've got some investigating to do.
Chuck
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2004 | 07:49 PM
  #22  
D Harry's Avatar
D Harry
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 201
Likes: 2
If you disconnect the spout while the motor is running, it will set a code 18 in your memory. Disconnect the battery for a few second and it should clear the code. If not, you have another problem, maybe a bad spout connector.
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:50 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE