Too Propane or not Too Propane
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Thanks everyone for the reply. I knew there were somepeople out there that knew some helpful info on this. Being that my good friend is a GM at one of the local ford dealers i am not to worried about trying this, but i will limit the amount i use i.e. have the valve tuned way down. I do not plan on using this on a daily basis. It is just for the race track tomorrow. So if i do two or three runs with it that will be alot. ( total of about 40-45sec.) Well i will let you now the out come. 
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02-12-2004, 11:53 AM
For major warranty repairs, like a blown motor, higher ups from Ford and I believe even International come in to authorize the repair under warranty. If they see evidence of a module or propane they most likely won't authorize the work.
That's kind of why there's the saying "you play, you pay"......
People are more willing to experiment with nitrous on the 6.0 than they are with propane.....
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That's kind of why there's the saying "you play, you pay"......
People are more willing to experiment with nitrous on the 6.0 than they are with propane.....
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02-12-2004, 01:44 PM
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02-12-2004, 04:28 PM
Here's a little info about running nitrous, this quote is from a buddy of mine:
And this one:
There are some people experimenting with some small amounts of nitrous on the 6.0 but last I heard they still were trying to work out shifting issues before they threw any more power to it.
I'd still be carefull when pushing big power out of the 6.0 due to the rods.
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Nitrous oxide is a non-flammable compound of nitrogen and oxygen. Yes, I see you in the back, jumping up and down and screaming "If it's non-flammable, then how the heck does it give us more power??" Here's how - Nitrous oxide is comprised of 2 atoms of nitrgen bonded by one atom of oxygen. Nitrous is a gas at room temperature, but easily liquified and stored. (much like LPG) At 565-575 deg F, nitrous breaks down into separate nitrogen and oxygen molecules.
When injected into the intake in a vaporous state, the heat of combustion breaks down the nitrous into inert nitrogen and fuel-burning oxygen. More oxygen = more power!
Also, Nitrous oxide, when injected from its pressurized container will instantly change to a vapor state in the engine's intake system. Much like water injection, when the nitrous vaporizes, it absorbes huge ammounts of heat, cooling the intake charge down considerably.
Nitrous has become pretty popular with the drag racing/high horsepower crowd. I'll admit - our '02 F-250 that runs 12s was given a little whiff of laughing gas to get there.
Nitrous actually gives you a little safer gain than propane does, because it doesn't advance the timing. It adds more usable oxygen to the intake charge. Gains of 250hp+ are possible with a properly set up nitrous kit.
The downside of Nitrous is the cost, and the fact that you don't have it on all the time.
When injected into the intake in a vaporous state, the heat of combustion breaks down the nitrous into inert nitrogen and fuel-burning oxygen. More oxygen = more power!
Also, Nitrous oxide, when injected from its pressurized container will instantly change to a vapor state in the engine's intake system. Much like water injection, when the nitrous vaporizes, it absorbes huge ammounts of heat, cooling the intake charge down considerably.
Nitrous has become pretty popular with the drag racing/high horsepower crowd. I'll admit - our '02 F-250 that runs 12s was given a little whiff of laughing gas to get there.
Nitrous actually gives you a little safer gain than propane does, because it doesn't advance the timing. It adds more usable oxygen to the intake charge. Gains of 250hp+ are possible with a properly set up nitrous kit.
The downside of Nitrous is the cost, and the fact that you don't have it on all the time.
Running LPG with nitrous to compliment it, we have seen 295hp+ gains on a PSD. Problem is that the PM rods start to look for a point of exit with that much pressure.
I forgot to add earler that Nitrous alone won't give you a tremendous HP gain. Since it's increasing the oxygen content of the air charge, you have to in turn give the engine more fuel to efficiently use that extra oxygen.
I forgot to add earler that Nitrous alone won't give you a tremendous HP gain. Since it's increasing the oxygen content of the air charge, you have to in turn give the engine more fuel to efficiently use that extra oxygen.
There are some people experimenting with some small amounts of nitrous on the 6.0 but last I heard they still were trying to work out shifting issues before they threw any more power to it.
I'd still be carefull when pushing big power out of the 6.0 due to the rods.
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