OK, after 2 weeks and 1200 miles it's official, it wasn't the 6spd that was sticky it's the clutch! Seeing I bougth the same exact truck as my 99 I thought it would be the same driving. The clutch grabs just over the floor, the clutch pedal return spring makes noise, when I stop or downshift it's like the clutch won't disingage. It's was dragging as I downshifted to 2nd at my driveway and almost stalled the engine. Anyone else have a problem like this? Trimman

 

Trimmman !
Not I said! "FortyFords"
I got 1890 miles on my 02 f2504x4 6spd.
Not many miles.
Its when shifting from 2nd to 3rd it's not a smooth shift haven't figured it out yet ,but I will.

Rich



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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-Mar-02 AT 08:02 PM (EST)]My clutch,(2002,650mi,V-10,)works just fine.In past experiences with two previously owned F150s there are two causes that I know of.

1.Air in system from not being bled well and completely.If this is the case you may get the trapped air out by letting the pedal return rapidly after depressing it all the way to the floor in normal fashion repeat this about ten times.This is what you have to do at least on the 1/2 ton Fords to get all of the air out after slave cylinder replacement.

2.A leak in the slave cylinder allowing air inside the system.Had this happen on two 1/2 ton Fords.On the 1/2 tons the slave bolts to the face of the bell housing and the transmission has to be removed for replacement of the slave cylinder.
(BTW my 95 F-350,460.5spd.manual has the slave cylinder on the outside of the transmission and actuates a clutch release fork.It's a piece of cake to replace if need be,it's just held on with a clip.The diesels were the same way.But the 351 Windsor setup the trans.had to come out just like the 1/2 tons.The 1992-1997 250 and 350 series trucks are setup this way.)

I don't know about the setup on the SD.Or whether gas or diesel use the same setup.

Problems with the clutch master cylinder could also cause the same symptoms as a bad slave cylinder.

As far as the transmission goes it will feel notchy until the parts wear in.Of course it's a heavy duty transmission and it won't ever be a fast shifter.

I did hear mention of this problem on earlier SD models(diesels anyway).I thought that they had solved this problem though.

Let us know what you find out.

 

To be a little clearer about this problem, sometimes while stopping at a light and depressing the clutch and braking it's like someone's pushing the truck from behind and it doesn't want to stop until the engine almosts stalls and the clutch finally lets go. It doesn't do this all the time but just enough to keep you alert. Thanks. Trimman

 

Start checking for fluid leaks around the bottom of the bell housing
or where the feed line to the slave cylinder is
make sure the little fluid holder is at the right level.
Mine was tipped forward and leaked some fluid out but not to the point where my clutch was doing what yours is.

Rich





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A bad(defective) pressure plate can cause this.

A bad or inadequately lubed pilot bushing can cause this also.(IMO,not likely on a new vehicle)

Just my ranting but,I feel that clutch problems on a new vehicle this day in age are inexcusable.They've been around forever,it's not like it's some new technology.

Sorry to hear you have a quality issue.
Good luck in resolving this,and please let us know what you find out.

 

Sounds like a trip to the Ford Dealership ASAP is in order. You don't want to take a chance that it won't disengage at some inconvenient time. It sounds to me like a fluid or cylinder problem, either clutch master cylinder or clutch slave cylinder. Let Ford figure it out. When you buy a NEW truck you don't want and should have the headaches of repairs. I'd suggest having the service manager go for a ride with you before you drop it off though.
Good luck,
Tony

 

hey forty fords. when you shift from second to third what isnt smooth about it? my truck seems to have this spot where it kinda grabs the gear and then it goes in fine. but i only notice it when i shift slowly, when i shift fast like when im accelerating hard and fast i have never noticed a grinding or anything? thanks.


-nathan

 

>hey forty fords. when you shift from second to third what
>isnt smooth about it? my truck seems to have this spot
>where it kinda grabs the gear and then it goes in fine. but
>i only notice it when i shift slowly, when i shift fast like
>when im accelerating hard and fast i have never noticed a
>grinding or anything? thanks.
>
>
>-nathan

Nathan
you described it to the tee
It just doesn't feel like it wants to go right in then grabs an goes
not a smooth transition so to speak,no grinding,but a little slight whine
faintly hear it(syncro noise maybe)
what ya think?
Rich
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i do think that it is the synchronizer that is causing that feeling. not sure if it is a problem or what. i am kinda leanin towards the idea of it bein a problem sinse i am not getting that feeling in any other gear.


-nathan

 

I've benn tickeling gear teeth from day one from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd with my foot indenting the floor board with the clutch, thought it just was me. My other problem is getting worse by the day. Now I have a vibration underfoot as soon as I even touch the clutch and now a syncro whine when I downshift to 1st and that all too familar stumble at a stop. Guys take note! Before this truck I had 2 other 250 5 spds with a total mileage of 350K between them plus my other manual tranny trucks. This stuff ain't new to me! Something besides a breakin period is needed to fix it. Now I just gotta find the time to lay it up. I was hoping to make it to the 3K service to have it looked at, but at this rate of decline it might be sooner. Trimman

 

I'd be inclined to think that if it isn't in the hydralic release system,then it's the pressure plate assy.Especially since you have mentioned vibration being transmitted through the pedal.Of course the sooner it is fixed the less premature wear and tear will be put on the syncronizers.

 

Hey Trimman !
Get that bad boy in and get it fixed! make sure they fix!
we don't want something else gettin messed up!
Comeon you can do it
we don't need any limping superduty's around here!!!!
We need a full blown report of what they do too!!
we want to see the old parts !!!!!!!!!!!
I'm just bustin ya a little!!

Rich

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Whats the latest ? trimman!
I was looking at mine today,it looks like the slave cylinder is easy to get to don't have to drop the tranny!
I don't have the manual yet ,but by just looking under their its mounted to the side of the bellhousing.

Rich







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