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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Flash upgrade???

I have noticed a lot of problems with the flash upgrades on your 6.0L trucks. I have a suggestion, but it does involve some $cash$ on your part. Why not just forget about Ford on this one and go to the after market products. I know HyperTech is working on a program for the 6.0L (not available yet) and Bully Dog has a product now. There is even this COOL product from Edge Products (see link below). It is a 5 way adjustable (on the fly) program. Takes just about five minutes to install. Just thought this might help some...

http://www.edgeproductsinc.com/ford_60_powerstroke.html

I totally realize that "you" the consumer should not be "forced" to the after market, but then again...you truck and the 6.0L will probably be happy again.

Actually, I find it totally funny (in a bad way of course) that FMC does not have the engineer's or resources to fix this problem. Maybe they should out-source this problem to one of the company's that I listed above. They have apparently figured it out!

Good luck with your 6.0L's...

 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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One big issue. Warranty.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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One big issue. Warranty.
What does warranty have to do with it? A manufacturer cannot void a warranty because the vehicle gets modified. That is against the law. If that were true then K&N couldn't make a filter intake system for new vehicles. Remember, no physical modification's are made...just a flash upgrade.

Besides, the systems that I suggested are really a way to either by-pass the original computer, or re-program the computer. Kinda like what FMC is doing anyway...only without success.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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the problem is they can detect that you have a program on the truck or have had it on there and that gives them something to blame your problems on. Just makes it harder if you have a serious problem, it may be against the law, but it is just an excuse for them.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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No they don't "void" a warranty. They can deny coverage of a repair if the failure is caused by the device you add. The dealer I use sells aftermarket products like performance chips. I asked the service manager about it. The warranty clearly mentions performance chips. The manager said if you have a failure that is a result of the modification, Ford could deny the warranty claim. So if you were to be using a chip on a moderate economy setting and drove normally, you would probably be okay. If you go out drag racing and lose an engine, you would probably have Ford deny the warranty claim.

I know you were going to quote me the Magnussen-Moss Act. You can use an aftermarket product if it "meets or exceeds the manufacturers requirements" this is exactly what that act covers. Be careful about thinking that the Magnussen-Moss Act will cover you on putting anything you want on your truck, because it won't.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Well...it is just something to think about. If FMC cannot correct the problem, and you really LOVE the SD 6.0L, then this is a way to keep the truck and enjoy it too.

 
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Looks like the Edge Products are real winners! I've noticed several threads thus far...and all positive. Really nice to know...

 
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