Gentlemen,

Picked up my truck this evening. As advised, I went over it with a fine tooth comb. Everything seems up to par. As I'm driving home (wouldn't you know it ) as I was breaking I felt a "clunk" sound as I came to a stop. At first I thought it might have been the transmission but now I'm pretty sure it's not. Anyway, it doesn't do it all the time. If I apply the breaks gently and let the truck crawl to a stop it will not do it. But, if I apply the breaks more aggressively it's more prone to do it. Have any of you gentlemen experience this? As always, you insights are appreciated.
P.S. I called the dealer when I arrived at home and he'll be checking it out Monday...Thanks Magnum1029...

 

When mine did it, it was the driveshaft. Yours should be updated.

Heard caliper loose bolts can cause this sound. And quite frankly, a whole bunch of other things.

Take it back!

 

>When mine did it, it was the driveshaft. Yours should be
>updated.
>
>Heard caliper loose bolts can cause this sound. And quite
>frankly, a whole bunch of other things.
>
>Take it back!

Yes sir,
I fully intend to do so. I guess it's kind of comforting knowing that others have had similar problems but it's turned out to be nothing major. In your case Monsta, what did they do to correct the problem
and did they know what it was right away?
On another note, I received a call from the dealer's finance guy. He said that in the paperwork (that I signed) he had calculated it with a 3.9% financing for 60 months. He said that it should have been a 4.9% interest rate, that the 3.9 was not for the Superduty vehicles. And, that I'd have to return and sign that paperwork again with the new rate... What do you think???
Thank you, Magnum1029.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-May-02 AT 01:50 AM (EST)]I'm not a lawyer by any stretch, but if you signed the paperwork THEY presented to you on their financing paperwork, and they "closed the deal" with you, you should be under a binding contract at 3.9%. I'd hate to make it sound like I'd be the type to take advantage of another guy's mistake (I WOULD, but I'd hate to sound like it!! lol), but an extra percentage point on financing a $30,000 vehicle will make a measurable difference in the payment and ultimately the total amount of money you shell out for your truck. In fact, something like that could be the difference in a buyer purchasing a truck or walking away. It also sounds kinda ballsy of them to want you to go resign on a truck that's already got problems!! It sounds like they wanna pad the old profit margin a bit. I'm not so sure I'd be real quick to rush down there and sign any new papers. At least not without talking to an attorney first. Anybody else have any opinions on this one? I'm really curious how this works out!!

Casey
(rotorhead)

 

Like monsta said- be sure to have them diagnose the noise. Could be anything from plain old "axle-wrap" to serious brake issues.

As for the contract, I'd read it VERY CLOSELY to see if they have reserved the right to correct "errors". If the value of the % is worth it, you may want to consult a lawyer.

 

I hear the anti-lock noise sometimes when braking. It usually does it right before the tires stop. I have noticed it more with the new tires. It only does it when braking hard, it seems like the anti-lock system is set up on the edge, soo it's eager to kick in...

 

>I'm not a lawyer by any stretch, but if you signed the
>paperwork THEY presented to you on their financing
>paperwork, and they "closed the deal" with you, you should
>be under a binding contract at 3.9%. I'd hate to make it
>sound like I'd be the type to take advantage of another
>guy's mistake (I WOULD, but I'd hate to sound like it!!
>lol), but an extra percentage point on financing a $30,000
>vehicle will make a measurable difference in the payment and
>ultimately the total amount of money you shell out for your
>truck. In fact, something like that could be the difference
>in a buyer purchasing a truck or walking away. It also
>sounds kinda ballsy of them to want you to go resign on a
>truck that's already got problems!! It sounds like they
>wanna pad the old profit margin a bit. I'm not so sure I'd
>be real quick to rush down there and sign any new papers.
>At least not without talking to an attorney first. Anybody
>else have any opinions on this one? I'm really curious how
>this works out!!
>
>Casey

A friend of mine just recently bought a car(chevy) for his wife.He knew what his trade in was worth, the payment, etc. etc.When at the dealer(it was busy there) the payment was much lower than figured.So excited at the lower payment and finding the color he wanted he took her home.I know of this because he came to work bragging of his great deal.When he got home he had a phone message from the dealer.He called them and they said he had to bring the car back.He asked why, they said they messed up on the money part of the deal and the payment would be higher.He said what if I did not bring it back?They said he had 2 options,one was bring the car back and take his used one home-then go look elsewhere.Second option was they would repo his new car!!Believe that!!! Well to stop any problems he went back,(pissed as hell, but the wife said so).Here the dealer somehow took off an additional 4K-plus somewhere in the dealing.Later he found out from somebody that all he had to do was wait 48 hours after signing the paperwork and then it would be a finalized document.I dont know if that was true about the 24 hours but I would not of went back.Do you think it works the other way around, dealer calling you to tell you he owed you money!!LOL! Well thats my story.Hope every thing works out for you.Keep us informed on what happens.

 

>I hear the anti-lock noise sometimes when braking. It
>usually does it right before the tires stop. I have noticed
>it more with the new tires. It only does it when braking
>hard, it seems like the anti-lock system is set up on the
>edge, soo it's eager to kick in...


Hi DJR 17,
Did you get the proplem resolved?
Thanks, Magnum1029...

 

>Like monsta said- be sure to have them diagnose the noise.
>Could be anything from plain old "axle-wrap" to serious
>brake issues.
>
>As for the contract, I'd read it VERY CLOSELY to see if they
>have reserved the right to correct "errors". If the value
>of the % is worth it, you may want to consult a lawyer.

Thanks for the advice NoMo,

At the risk of sounding like a "rookie" (which I am). What is "axle-
wrap".

As for the contract, I'll go over it thoroughly. The 1% difference in the interest rate, represents $13 more a month or $780.00 over the life of the loan....Thank you, Magnum1029

 

> Hi DJR 17,
>Did you get the proplem resolved?
>Thanks, Magnum1029...

No not yet. I'm waiting to see if it goes away after the new tires break in.

 

The whole switching of intrest rate thing sounds like scam #2 over at [link:www.carbuyingtips.com/scams.htm|Top 10 Dealer Scams.] I read everything at that site before I even thought about buying my truck, very good info.

 

>At the risk of sounding like a "rookie" (which I am). What is "axle-wrap".

Imagine yourself looking at the rear tires from the side. Axle wrap is when the axle wants to twist upwards. Simply stated, the front of the axle (like where the driveshaft goes in) lifts up. Not vertically but in a manner that if possible would cause the axle to spin opposite of the wheels. (Ya follow me?)

This is caused by the pinion wanting to "climb" the ring gear. Soft springs, lift blocks, extreme driveline angles accentuate this.

 

>On another note, I received a call from the dealer's finance
>guy. He said that in the paperwork (that I signed) he had
>calculated it with a 3.9% financing for 60 months. He said
>that it should have been a 4.9% interest rate, that the 3.9
>was not for the Superduty vehicles. And, that I'd have to
>return and sign that paperwork again with the new
>rate... What do you think???
>Thank you, Magnum1029.

I'd call Ford customer service.If the dealer screwed up the finance rate and it is financed through Ford Motor Credit I'd be inclined to believe that Ford Motor Credit would honor the rate you signed up for.Ford Motor Credit would then settle the issue with the dealer and leave you out of the mess and force the dealer to fess up to Ford about their screw up.

Just my .02.

 

Gentlemen,

Just an update on the financing issue. I called Ford Motor corp in Michigan and spoke to two of their reps. After talking at them (not to them) for non-stop 20 minutes, they held fast to their positions that Ford does not offer a 3.9%/60 month plan on Super Dutys. They only offer a 4.9% 60 month or a 48 month plan at 2.9%. The only recorse I have now is to hire an attorney, (which it's not worth it for $780.00, you'll just be handing him the money if win) or file a complaint with Ford against the dealer . I thought it over and since I still have take him my truck for the "clunking" sound I hear when I brake. I thought it'd be best if I just let this one slide.
To share a little more about my experience with them. I ordered my truck in March and picked it up Saturday. When I looked over the vehicle, I found that they had installed a bedliner that I did not order. When we sat down and finalized the paperwork, I found that he was charging me $200.00 for it. I told him to get himself a screwdriver and remove it or throw it in as part of the deal. To make a long story short, at least I got that out of him.
Didn't mean to be so long winded guys. Just thought you'd like to know. Thanks for all your input guys, Magnum1029...

 

>When I
>looked over the vehicle, I found that they had installed a
>bedliner that I did not order. When we sat down and
>finalized the paperwork, I found that he was charging me
>$200.00 for it.

I'm sorry to hear that the dealer took it upon themselves to add a dealer installed item (bedliner) without your request . It only takes a few bad dealers to make the rest of them look bad.The $200 asking price wasn't bad,but that doesn't excuse their unethical decision to install it without your request.I hope you gave Ford a piece of your mind over this issue also.

If the dealer screwed up the finance rate and they gave a rats butt about your satisfaction then they should stick to their finance quote.It seems like the extra financing $$$ would have to come out of their pocket and that's probably why they want you to pay up.They don't want to take a hit on your truck even if it means "just" breaking even.

Stay on the dealers donkey .
In my experience other Ford dealers will do warranty work for you if you get tired of fooling with these people.

Best of luck in resolving your issues and enjoy your new SD .