does prohibition work?
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does prohibition work?
I hear alot of people on here who are anti-drug, anti-user.
I'm curious about whether you think prohibition is working as a viable solution to the countries "drug problem".
I feel prohibition is just shoveling crap against the tide, causes more problems than it solves, and costs more than it saves, but I'm one of those freaky Californians. what are your thoughts?
I'm curious about whether you think prohibition is working as a viable solution to the countries "drug problem".
I feel prohibition is just shoveling crap against the tide, causes more problems than it solves, and costs more than it saves, but I'm one of those freaky Californians. what are your thoughts?
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This freaky Californian thinks that if we give in and let drugs completely destroy the integrity of our culture, then we deserve the destiny in store. I know that it seems a loosing battle but if you throw in the towel, you might as well condone the use of drugs.
Every kid in this country is watching. What message will we send to them if we condone drug use?
Have you ever noticed how screwed up other countries that allow drug use are? The inspiration and will that made this country so great would vaporize, in my opinion.
Every kid in this country is watching. What message will we send to them if we condone drug use?
Have you ever noticed how screwed up other countries that allow drug use are? The inspiration and will that made this country so great would vaporize, in my opinion.
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From: Kentucky
The war on drugs is not gaining , by any means. I am anti drug, anti drink, anti smoke, but that dont count much toward curing society's problems, ha. What I see is our prisons being filled with people that got caught with some grass on them, now the prisons are full, so they are letting out the rapists and murderers back on the streets to rape and kill again. Gezz, wheres the logic in that system ?
Wait a minute, I think its the same logic as , "no oral sex is not sex, " and " Yes its o.k. to let all illegal immigrants become legal".
Wait a minute, I think its the same logic as , "no oral sex is not sex, " and " Yes its o.k. to let all illegal immigrants become legal".
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I am a hardline conservative, but Ill be the first one to say that you cant arrest your way out of a drug problem. Unfortunately our govt. has never really tried to stop the flow of drugs coming into the country. We could easily inflict such damage on the cartels, labs, and smuggelers that it would greatly reduce the amount of drugs coming in, and make the ones we didnt kill think twice before they tried to send their product our way. Thus far our govt has not been willing to do what it takes. I also believe that the vast sums of money confiscated by fed, state, and local law enforcement has alot to do with it. Arresting drug offenders, siezing their assets, and fining them generates tons of revenue. I think as long as Americans want drugs they will be able to get them.
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I am probably making waves here, but I don't really see any way to stop the drug use. By all means, I don't condone it and will never use drugs. But maybe the answer is to control it. I know, easier said than done.
Set up some rule like Alcohol and Cigarretts have. Tax the hell out of it and control the toxins in the drugs. The government should have some control over the content of the drugs and make them less harmfull.
Wouldn't this also eliminate some of the crimes related to drugs? The guy that just wants his weekly joint would go to the local store and buy it.
I am in no way saying that this is the answer as if they could find a way to get rid of the drug problem all together, I would be all for it, but this could be a step in the right direction, maybe.
Set up some rule like Alcohol and Cigarretts have. Tax the hell out of it and control the toxins in the drugs. The government should have some control over the content of the drugs and make them less harmfull.
Wouldn't this also eliminate some of the crimes related to drugs? The guy that just wants his weekly joint would go to the local store and buy it.
I am in no way saying that this is the answer as if they could find a way to get rid of the drug problem all together, I would be all for it, but this could be a step in the right direction, maybe.
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The simple reason for the illegalization of so many drugs now can be directly attributed to the "Noble Experement," that's right prohibition. In 1933 when the 18th Amendment was repealed, there were thousands of federal law enforcement officers left literally useless. In typical government thinking, the federal government simply put them to use by making other things illegal (at the time falling under the Secret Service, later the law enforcement division became what we now call the DEA, and the BATF).
Don't get me wrong, I don't comdone drug use however I do realize that without prohibition none of us would know who Alfonse "Al" Capone was, the Kennedy family wouldn't be "the Kennedy Family" and in my opinion we wouldn't see the problems with see with alcohol use. I know it seems like a stretch, but the under-the-table drinking of the "speakeasys" led to the commonality of binge drinking and "dirty popularity" we see in drinking today. I can' t help but wonder if we would have have the rampant drug problems we see today... Just something to think about.
Don't get me wrong, I don't comdone drug use however I do realize that without prohibition none of us would know who Alfonse "Al" Capone was, the Kennedy family wouldn't be "the Kennedy Family" and in my opinion we wouldn't see the problems with see with alcohol use. I know it seems like a stretch, but the under-the-table drinking of the "speakeasys" led to the commonality of binge drinking and "dirty popularity" we see in drinking today. I can' t help but wonder if we would have have the rampant drug problems we see today... Just something to think about.
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Anti-drug propoganda in junior high certainly got me to wondering what the drug scene was all about, and there is a sorta thrill to doing illegal or prohibited activity, especially if it isn't wrong, just illegal, thus 'vices' will always be popular. Personally, I am all for freedom of choice, particularly in choosing ones own diet. Ever wonder why there are well publicized tests about how much alcohol effects a persons ability to drive, one drink and joe/jane average does pretty well, two and there is some problems, three and you can tell much more uncoordinated, after eight drinks even the person who can 'hold their booze' is visibly intoxicated, etc., but there arn't any test showing after a joint, or a line of coke, or some drowsy type of cold medicine, such and such is the effect, its just zero tolerance, not even based on any percievable impairment. Why not have honest accurate science across the board, rather than demonizing selective substances, usually based only on corporate profits, and not science or danger to the population.
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Prohibition just provides business "opportunities" for lowlifes, treat it like alcohol or tobacco. Regulate and tax it, decriminalize users and get them treatment. They withhold treatment now unless a user "cooperates" with the authorities 
If the profit is gone the cartels and pushers will go away. Unless of course we are dumb enuf to prohibit something else. OOops I forgot, we will have to find something for all of the DEA agents and police to do with their expensive guns and other toys.
If the profit is gone the cartels and pushers will go away. Unless of course we are dumb enuf to prohibit something else. OOops I forgot, we will have to find something for all of the DEA agents and police to do with their expensive guns and other toys.
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The only way you can stop drug use is through stiffer law enforcement,which is't happening right now.Stiffer penalities for possession,and more intervention on drugs coming into the U.S. from foreign countries. You will never stop it,but i think you could slow it down.The U.S. taxpayer doesn't want to spend the money to stop it,but they end up paying for it anyway.We are willing to free a country from a tyrant but we don't want to liberate our own country from a greater evil,drugs.We have to get our priorities straight as to what we feel is more of a threat.For instance,Was Saddam as big a threat as the local junkie trying to rob you or trying to sell drugs to your son or daughter?Could you imagine what we could do with $80 bil.towards stopping the drug trade?Drug education isn't enough.It helps,but we need to do more
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If we intend to rely on anti-drug education to convince kids not to use we would do well to be honest and not suggest that all substances are equally dangerous. When kids discover their life doesn't spiral out of control after smoking a little pot now and then they are much more likely to "graduate" to more dangerous chemicals. Especially when due to the illegality of all the substances the "pusher" often carries a full line of products.
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Tobacco is by far the most deadly and dangerous drug in use in the USA, if we made tobacco ilegal, gave, like maybe two weeks for the nico-junkies to kick their filthy addiction or leave the freedom loving USA, and then strick enforcement with very stiff fines for any tobacco infractions, particularly personal use criminals, even the death penalty for pushers, we as a country would be better searved than all the prosecutions for all illegal drugs searve us now.
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Originally posted by 62uni
Tobacco is by far the most deadly and dangerous drug in use in the USA, if we made tobacco ilegal, gave, like maybe two weeks for the nico-junkies to kick their filthy addiction or leave the freedom loving USA, and then strick enforcement with very stiff fines for any tobacco infractions, particularly personal use criminals, even the death penalty for pushers, we as a country would be better searved than all the prosecutions for all illegal drugs searve us now.
Tobacco is by far the most deadly and dangerous drug in use in the USA, if we made tobacco ilegal, gave, like maybe two weeks for the nico-junkies to kick their filthy addiction or leave the freedom loving USA, and then strick enforcement with very stiff fines for any tobacco infractions, particularly personal use criminals, even the death penalty for pushers, we as a country would be better searved than all the prosecutions for all illegal drugs searve us now.
that would stop all the nicotine crazed addicts from robbing grannie at knifepoint to satisfy thier habit, kids wouldn't have to worry about the "tobacco" lab next door blowing up, the marlboro "hopped-up" junkies from running around naked in public threatening people with bodily harm, no more nicotine induced HIV from sharing a cigarette....