Hey guys, just a couple questions that I hope you can answer or link to a thread about.

I've heard tons of bad news about the 6.0, but I heard after the September build date everything is ok - anything else I should know?

This will be my daily driver, and consist of about 10-20 minutes of cold start idle time in the mornings...is this good for it? (Winter only) but is idling fine for a diesel?

This would be my first Diesel, so anything related to diesel I should know please fill me in if you have the time...thank you very much ahead of time

 

CruisnPhantom

I'm new to the diesel world myself. I just took the plung for my first PSD on 11/28/03. All I can say, up to this point I love the one I've got when my wife will let me drive it or when I'm ever at home. It has about 2100 miles on it and not the first issue to date.

I've spent a lot of time reading the Forums here and it seems that most of the problems you read about are related more toward the 03 models with 03 engines and the early 04 models that still were getting the 03 engine in them.

As far as idling issue I've read different opions on it, and most lean towards the neg side of a lot of idle time on the engine. I assume the idel time would be to let the truck warm up prior to heading off to work in it. Using the block heater in cold temps should not require near as much idle time if the warm up is the issue.

Also seen this in another diesel form

D I E S E L

D: Dont
I: Idle
E: Engine
S: Shortens
E: Engine
L: Life

Just spend some time here reading and you will find all the info and answers you are looking for. I know I have. It's all been a learning experience for me..... A lot of knowledge at this site and and the modertators are excellent

Good Luck and don't worry buy the truck

This site is going to get my a@@ fired...... Surf it constantly at work all day so be warned you may get addicted to it

 

I've got an early (May 03) build PSD - but after the bad injector recall - and have had no problems. It runs like a sunofagun. 'course, I've only put 2500 miles on it but from what i've read here, most were having problems by now if they were going to have them at all.

Still lovin it

poco

 

Ive got a sept. 2004 and it sucks fuel down like crazy ford has no fix so far flashed 3 times. only 1 other problem rear main seal leaking, since new they replaced it no leaks. I would wait till they get the fuel mileage problem fixed, it gets pretty expensive to keep truck on the road when you 10 to 12 mpg when empty on hwy and 8 mpg in city . wait for 2005

 

I've heard mixed on the mileage. I'm getting about 13 mpg city and 18 mpg highway. I'm thrilled to have a vehicle this big that gets as good of highway mileage as 18.

 

Hum,

I've checked my mileage with each fuel fill and i get 15-18 MPG overall. Of course you know the type of fuel you use (1D or 2D) makes a big diff. ALso, I've found significant variation based on where i bought my fuel. I now get my fuel at one place only - a place that sells a LOT of fuel.

poco

 

I have an 04/03 truck and love it, 19 MPG on the last tank full combined. No problems so far, its been a great truck!

KC

 

What is the difference between 1-D and 2-D Fuel? Does the pump say? And I can only think of one station around here that has diesel fuel, it's either an Amoco or Mobil I'm not sure...but do any of you have trouble finding a place that sells diesel fuel?


Very curious about the 1-D and 2-D differences...

Thanks a lot for your replies. I was at the dealership yesterday and a decision will be made within a week.

 

CruisnPhantom

High speed diesel engines use either 1D or 2D fuels. Important characteristics of diesel fuels are its viscosity, pour point, and cetane number. The primary differences between 1D and 2D fuel are the pour point and the viscosity. Pour point is the lowest temperature at which a liquid will flow. Viscosity is the resistance of a liquid to flow. A 1D fuel is designed for cold weather operation; thus, it is less viscous and has a lower pour point. A 2D fuel is used in warmer weather because it has a higher viscosity and pour point. The higher viscosity provides better lubrication qualities for the moving parts of the fuel injection system. Because 2D fuels contain more Btu's (British thermal units - the amount of heat necessary to raise one (1) pound of water one (1) degree fahrenheit) per gallon, they are able to deliver more power per gallon. This is critical to diesel engine fuel economy. The higher the Btu rating a diesel fuel has, the greater power yield per gallon; thus, higher mpg will result. Cetane rating is the diesel equivalent to gasoline's octane rating. Unlike an octane rating, which rates gasoline's resistance to spontaneous ignition, the cetane rating number (usually 40 to 55 for medium to high speed engines) notes the relative ease with which diesel fuel ignites. The higher the cetane number, the easier the fuel ignites; the higher the octane number, the more resistant the fuel is to ignition. Each manufacturer usually specifies a minimum or maximum cetane rating and the suggested operating temperature for 1D and 2D fuels. A given fuel may meet 1D or 2D specifications, but if the Btu rating is too low, then decreased fuel mpg will result.

 

Wow! Thank you very much!

 

Your welcome

Now I best get my a@@ back to work before I get fired find myself standing on the street cornor.....

 

8ballzs: how can I tell which I am pouring into my tank at the pump? Do I have to ask the station which they are using?

 

If you think you will be doing a lot of idling you may want to look into idle controller (AIC). From what I have read this will help.

 

hey poco we only have #2 in the south, also I buy my fuel at the same place that I did with my 7.3 that got 15mpg in the city and 24 mpg on the hwy. and by the the way with a couple of mods a 7.3 will run with any 6.0. ( 2000 f350 banks monster exhaust, banks trans. comand banks big hoss chip , cold air intake.

 

Two things:

1. What bad injector recall?

2. How do I know if it is 1D or 2D at the pump?