Notices
General NON-Automotive Conversation No Political, Sexual or Religious topics please.
View Poll Results: Are you more inclined to trust someone who
Attends church regularly
16
40.00%
Rarely or never attends church
24
60.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

Church Attendance

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:22 AM
  #1  
jpsartre12's Avatar
jpsartre12
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
From: Detroit Subs
Post Church Attendance

Would you be more inclined to trust:
a. Someone who attends church regularly
b. Someone who rarely or never attends church.

Please elaborate on your answer.
 

Last edited by jpsartre12; Jan 6, 2004 at 09:25 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:38 AM
  #2  
99 ranger bob's Avatar
99 ranger bob
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
From: formerly Brooklyn NY now
to me chuch has nothing to do with it. to me i find alot of people who run to church are hypocrites ( NOT ALL BUT ALOT OF THEM) they run to church weekly and pray then theyre the first ones talkin about you or people or doin everything the church says ya shouldnt. i guess ya figure that running to church absolves ya and gets ya a seat in heaven. to me religion is fromt he heart not confined to a building.
before i deal with someone i tend to try to judge their character by their actions and manner to make my decision on how much to trust them
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:42 AM
  #3  
true4.2's Avatar
true4.2
Postmaster
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,310
Likes: 0
From: Lufkin
I actually play in the band at church, and I lead the youth band. I'm at church no average 4 times/week.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:01 AM
  #4  
Waxy's Avatar
Waxy
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Canada
Unless I have questions about the church, and even then it would depend on what kind of questions, I prefer to put my trust in someone who lives in a world of science and logic than someone who looks to divine inspiration and faith.

Waxy
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:08 AM
  #5  
02PSD4ME's Avatar
02PSD4ME
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,008
Likes: 1
From: Port St. Lucie, FL
Going to church does not make one more trustworthy, or a better person.

I judge people on a person to person basis.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:25 AM
  #6  
mountravlr's Avatar
mountravlr
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 141
Likes: 1
When one realizes that the church is made up of converted sinners, Acts 3:19, Rom. 3:23, as all of us are, judgments of individual character should be made on a case-by-case basis.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:35 AM
  #7  
fisher of men's Avatar
fisher of men
New User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: austin, tx
one on one relationship with Jesus

I have a one on one Relationship with Jesus Christ!
I talk with him every meal and almost every night before I go to bed. He has been my Back Bone most of my life. I do not ask for much from him, but have been given everything I need.
I am very thankful to him on every thing that he gives me. I stay as honest as I can and try to keep my word. I am fair and straight forward. He is what makes me the Man I am.
I have wanted a 1/2 ton ford Truck for about a year. I have never asked him for one but he knows that could use one. Saturday he gave be one thru a neighbor that no longer wanted it in her driveway. It was no cost to me.
1978 Ford F150 Ranger XLT Super Cab, no broken or cracked glass. It needs a new 2 Barrel Carb, Master cylinder, Bushings, Cab is blue every thing in Cab is original and no know problems.

I go to church often Non Denominational Church with Band and Contempory music. the Key to church is it not just 2 hours on Sunday. It is 24/7 365 every were you are.

Thank you and God Bless
William
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:46 AM
  #8  
jpsartre12's Avatar
jpsartre12
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
From: Detroit Subs
Originally posted by 99 ranger bob
to me chuch has nothing to do with it. to me i find alot of people who run to church are hypocrites ( NOT ALL BUT ALOT OF THEM) they run to church weekly and pray then theyre the first ones talkin about you or people or doin everything the church says ya shouldnt. i guess ya figure that running to church absolves ya and gets ya a seat in heaven. to me religion is fromt he heart not confined to a building.
before i deal with someone i tend to try to judge their character by their actions and manner to make my decision on how much to trust them
I tried to word it so as to NOT give any wiggle room. Obviously, I didn't succeed. Maybe if I wrote:

If you knew NOTHING about two people other than the fact that one went to church regularly and one didn't and each told you something different, which would you be more inclined to believe was telling the truth?
I agree with all of the assertions that you would judge somebody on lots of characteristics, but if the only piece of information that you knew about two people was church attendance and they gave you opposing answers, which one would you be inclined to trust more and why?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 10:52 AM
  #9  
Max_'77F250's Avatar
Max_'77F250
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: Pittsburgh
Re: one on one relationship with Jesus

Originally posted by fisher of men
I have a one on one Relationship with Jesus Christ!
I talk with him every meal and almost every night before I go to bed. He has been my Back Bone most of my life. I do not ask for much from him, but have been given everything I need.
I am very thankful to him on every thing that he gives me. I stay as honest as I can and try to keep my word. I am fair and straight forward. He is what makes me the Man I am.
I have wanted a 1/2 ton ford Truck for about a year. I have never asked him for one but he knows that could use one. Saturday he gave be one thru a neighbor that no longer wanted it in her driveway. It was no cost to me.
1978 Ford F150 Ranger XLT Super Cab, no broken or cracked glass. It needs a new 2 Barrel Carb, Master cylinder, Bushings, Cab is blue every thing in Cab is original and no know problems.

I go to church often Non Denominational Church with Band and Contempory music. the Key to church is it not just 2 hours on Sunday. It is 24/7 365 every were you are.

Thank you and God Bless
William
I don't goto church or believe in god, but I was given a car also( a 2000 nissan altima ) and I am fair and straightforward also.

Religon, church and athiests are 3 different things. Neither makes anyone of us any better than the other. It's all how you act toward your friends, family, and neighbors. I have met people who goto church every day and are the most hypocritical people on the planet and I have met some that are very nice and are great friends of mine. I don't think you can group everyone into the "good" pile because they goto church, nor can you group the athiests into the "bad" pile because they don't believe. Each group has their bad apples, but each group also has some good ones

Fisher - congrats on the truck. I had the chance to buy a 76 f250 for $400 but it was a POS. Is the body still good on yours or is it rusted through?
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:02 AM
  #10  
Big Orn's Avatar
Big Orn
Post Fiend
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,643
Likes: 8
From: NE Texas
Originally posted by jpsartre12
I tried to word it so as to NOT give any wiggle room. Obviously, I didn't succeed. Maybe if I wrote:

If you knew NOTHING about two people other than the fact that one went to church regularly and one didn't and each told you something different, which would you be more inclined to believe was telling the truth?
I agree with all of the assertions that you would judge somebody on lots of characteristics, but if the only piece of information that you knew about two people was church attendance and they gave you opposing answers, which one would you be inclined to trust more and why?

jp, that's a hard one. It would really depend on the question, wouldn't it? Obviouisly, if you asked, "Would chewing tobacco in church be a bad thing?" or "Did Jesus Christ do away with the Sabboth?", then one would tend to lean towards the church-goer, since it is religious-based. On the other hand, if you asked, "What sized catfish do I need to buy and how many to stock my 8 acre pond?", then what difference would it make?

Could you give an example of a question you would pose that would fit this scenario?
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:14 AM
  #11  
Waxy's Avatar
Waxy
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Canada
Originally posted by Big Orn
Could you give an example of a question you would pose that would fit this scenario?
And answer the question yourself.


Waxy
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:29 AM
  #12  
camo4stealth's Avatar
camo4stealth
Elder User
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 807
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
I believe in a creator, BUT-- Religion is a crutch for the weak. I have no problem with god, it's just his fan club I can do without.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 12:06 PM
  #13  
HerbertKornfeld's Avatar
HerbertKornfeld
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Spring, TX
People that I would consider "religious" seem to have an agenda that focuses on their religion and church. Their actions can be justified by saying, "God told/meant/wanted me to do that."

Non-religious people seem to have their actions dictated more by real-world concerns.


I'll take the secular over the religious.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 12:39 PM
  #14  
marc9000's Avatar
marc9000
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
From: northern Ky
I would trust a church-goer, SOMEWHAT, over a non church-goer. I have seen some non church-goers that I would not hesitate to trust with my life, and some church-goers that were absolute crooks. But the reason I remember them so well is because they were the exception to the rule.

Most churches teach trust and truth, and the secular world teaches "me first". I believe studies have shown that the truth is getting less and less important in the secular world as time goes by. The TRUTH of the importance of loving our neighbor as ourselves, as doing unto others as we would have them do unto us, doesn't change.

It's really sweet to live a life where some things don't change.

marcrr
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 02:32 PM
  #15  
fisher_of_man's Avatar
fisher_of_man
Posting Guru
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,406
Likes: 0
From: West Texas
I don't think church-goer/ non-church goer is fair grounds to base trust on. (hoping not to step on any toes here....here I go)

I have met many people both church and nonj-church, that I would trust, likewise there are many from both groups that I wouldn't trust. My question is this: What are the requirements for attending church? there are none. just because someone attends, it doesn't mean there is any religious connection, desire to follow God, or morality to that person. People attend church for a number of reasons ....it shouldn't be that way, but there are people who attend church because: they are lonely, they are looking for a date, they are bored, they want to be a part of something, they always have, their family wants them to, to try and win over someone else....some have even done so in order to accomplish bad/evil things (ie: rape, theft, abuse, etc). That being said just on the basis of whether or not they go to church shouldnt' have a bearing on your trust. There are plenty of people in the pews that I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them...and that saddens me, I hate to say it, but it is true....Likewise, I know several people in the pews that I could trust my life and everything else with.

I think you have to go further than churchgoer/non-church goer....look at the peron on an individual basis.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE