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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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I have a 95 F350 Dually flat bed with a 460 efi. It has about 101,000 miles on it. I recently attempted a simple tune up and while trying to get plugs out snapped 2 on them off in the head. I drilled them out, tapped, and installed inserts in these two cylinders. I stuck a tube down and vacummed out the cylinders and turned the motor over a few times with the plugs out to get rid of any metal in the cylinder. Now the truck is back together and I am seeing moisture/oil coming from the breather line off the oil filler cap. The truck also seems like it is missing on a cylinder, wires are not crossed I've checked that multiple times. I thought it must have damaged something in 1 of those cylinders I was working on. I did a compression check today and found all cylinders to be around 90 PSI. I was able to get them up to about 150 psi added a bit of clean oil into the cylinder prior to doing the check again. Does it sound like a case of worn piston rings in all the cylinders ? Thats my thought but i'm in denial. it only has 101,000 on it. Any idea's....
 
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Yeah the rings are worn uniformly or you have out of round cylinders with a lot of wear. Chances are that the rings are bad. My 460 had 73,000 and the cylinders just needed honing. The increased blow by of the rings will result in the breather line. You may have not noticed it before since you just did the tune up and are looking for things now. As for the misfire, does it only do it while you have a constant rpm on the engine or all the time?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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The misfire is only noticable at an idle. When you drive down the street you cannot feel the misfire. The truck does lack some power though. I bought it last January and use it primarily as a plow/sander truck. It has been a plowing and sanding truck since new. I have no doubt it has been worked hard for the 101,000 miles. Do you think I can get by another few months running this way or will the motor finally go south due to the blowby.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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You can still run it but the effiency isn't as good as new. If I am not mistaken stock engines ran 140-150 psi on each cylinder. You should be able to run it for a while actually. Just keep in mind the longer you run an engine the worse it wears out. IMO I would buy another 460 and build it up while your still using the one you have. Then when you are done building it swap it out for new then sell the old one as a rebuild / core. Just my opinion though.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Thanks for the info. Any chance a 351 will bolt into the same tranny and mounts without any modifications ?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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A 351M-400M will work but there are going to be a few external issues to deal wth. Mainly the accessories and the flex plate or flywheel. You didn't say if it was a manual or auto tranny.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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The truck has a manual transmission. I'm gonna look around for a 460 motor. I was hoping the smaller motor would give me a little better mileage. It's not worth spending the coin making mod's to other parts to make the 351 fit. The truck spends most of it's time driving 20 mph pushing snow. Thanks for all the help.

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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The 351/400 m never came in a 95, i believe that the 351-400s' stopped in around 81-83. A small block 351w does not have the same bellhousing.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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I would not worry about lower compression readings. They do indicate wear, but so what?

Drive it until it drives no more, that's my advice. Then buy a low-miles 460 off ebay and put it in there.
 
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