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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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harmonic balancer ??

I've got a significant vibration that I believe is the harmonic balancer. It's bad between 1000-1500 RPM, worst around 1200, in all the gears. It also occurs just sitting in my driveway, so I know it's something with the engine. I've replaced the motor mounts and compression check was fine. Any other possible ideas than the harmonic balancer?

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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Flexplate?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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I had a 1982 F250, 302 motor with NP435 standard transmission.
It had an identical vibration to yours!
I replaced the harmonic balancer, both motor mounts and transmission mounts (slight improvement)
New clutch disc and pressure plate, had flywheel resurfaced
(much worse)
Replaced flywheel with Ford OEM flywheel from dealer
(vibration completely gone)
Good luck!
 
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Torquemeister, was your oem flexplate ever replaced?

Mine worked fine until I decided to ruin it when I was putting my tranny back in and I didn't have the torque converter lined up right with the flexplate and warped it when I tightened it down. Beings it was a Sunday, the only place open with one in stock was autozone and now I'm kicking myself cause I've a vibration now too that wasn't there before I did all this. My point is, if you do have to replace it, I would get one oem. When the weather gets nicer, I'm gonna replace mine. Just my two cents.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure if the flexplate is original or not. I've had the truck for about a year, and the vibration has been there since I bought it. It's not my daily driver, just a project. I did the rear main seal when I first got it, so now I'm wishing I would've done the flexplate then!! I'll have to start pricing them, I guess. Autozone has theirs for $48, any idea how much for the OEM?

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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No, I haven't priced one at OEM. I've been sorta putting that project off, but it is gonna be getting warmer out and my rear main seal is still drippin a little... So I'm sure it won't be long before I find out.

One other option for you is to check around your local salvage yards. I was visiting mine yesterday and surprised at some of the goodies I found for myself there.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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I guess it'll be found at a local salvage yard sometime. fordpartsonline.com has the OEM flexplate for $230 (AutoBad = $50) and the harmonic balancer OEM = $93 (AutoBad = $80 for a Dorman).

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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It's an automatic, right?
 
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I had an old chevy truck. I was working on the carb. I noticed then that when the truck was running the harmonic balancer was worbling something terrible. After shutting it off, it was cracked to and seperating from the rubber core.

NOW, even with all that going on there was no discernable vibration noticeable at idle or driving it.

Had a '74 Nova...was replacing a blown engine. Made the mistake of seperating the engine and trans in the car to replace rather than take them out together- then seperating.

After getting the new used sheet in there and running again...the car had a horrible vibration. Increased with revs. Increased on the highway so bad u just got use to your teeth chattering and knocking in your head cruising around.

Everyones guess was that we bent the torque converter or flywheel re-uniting those 2 objects. We never got to the bottom of it and no one forked out the cash to try and fix it. The buddy who got the car after the original blown engine drove it like that for a couple years before it finally found its way to the boneyard.
 
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The harmonic balancer(dampener) is a good place to start looking. Peek at it while on the truck, if it has a rubber spacer between the center metal assy., and the outer metal pulley , you should carefully visually inspect it. I don't know much about your truck( not too many details included about it) but my 92 4.9L has that type of pulley. Look at the balancer while it's running, maybe you could detect a slight wobble if you put some good light on it.
First of all, as a life long troubleshooter, I was taught when your'e not exactly sure what the problem is, to replace the easiest to remove and cheapest parts first.
I just attached my flexplate to the engine and re-bolted to my torque convertor. I may have screwed up the job, I'm not sure yet, the engine hasn't been run yet. I noticed that there is play between the flexplate and torque convertor, as I was turning the engine by hand and tightening the nuts, I noticed a 1/32 inch or 1/16 bit of play between the two. The fit between the TC and flexplate isn't tight, I am hoping that the center hub of the TC is real tight into the center of the flexplate, I never tested to see how they fit together while the engine was out, (my bad)
 
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