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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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From an article in my morning paper: Who needs Washington beef when the U.S. House Of Representatives is serving up record amounts of pork this year? The Omnibus spending bill, awaiting only the Senate's and the president's rubber stamp (this president has never met a spending bill he didn't like), contains $23 billion in pet projects. That's twice the size delivered by the porkuplex just five years ago. Oink! Consider these servings: a University of Hawaii documentary on Kalahari Bushmen ($200,000), an indoor rain forest in Iowa ($50 million), and an aquarium in Alaska ($1 million). What budget deficit? Oh, there's pork to study that, too: a University of Akron "Exercise in Hard Choices" program to examine how Congress makes budget decisions ($500,000).
I was described as "nuts" (jokingly) in a post recently, but I admit, as a fiscal conservative, stuff like this pushes me even further over the edge. Statements like "this year's deficit is ONLY X.X% of the GDP" (I heard this again yesterday from a senator from Georgia) makes me cringe. My grandfather used to say, "If you dance, you will have to pay the fiddler" - problem is, it is our grandchildren that will have to pay.
End of after Christmas rant.
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Next time you vote, remember who invested in these "Pork Belly Futures"
 
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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duno, you're right of course. But I'm not yet ready to believe that Republicans are big spenders and Democrats believe that people are entitled to keep more of their money. Your "morning paper", as well as newspapers all across the country, are fearing a one sided, boring election next year, one that may not sell many papers, and they need ways to spruce things up a bit. If that's twice as much spending as five years ago, how about 4 years ago, or six years ago? Are they telling us the whole story?

I wonder how long it takes to go through 23 billion in totally wasted environmental spending. Weeks? Days? or minutes?

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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Re: Mad Pork Disease

Originally posted by dono
- problem is, it is our grandchildren that will have to pay.

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If you were old enough to remember the 80's donno, you'd remember that your Democrat friends were crying the same thing. But by 1996 the Budget was balanced, thanks to those darn fiscal conservitive Republicans in Congress...
 
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dono
[B]the president's rubber stamp (this president has never met a spending bill he didn't like),


And if this President were a Democrat you would be praising him for being such a compassionate spender....
 
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redranger03
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the president's rubber stamp (this president has never met a spending bill he didn't like),


And if this President were a Democrat you would be praising him for being such a compassionate spender....
I am a registered Republician who voted for this President, and no one with a three digit IQ would ever label him a "compassionate spender".
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Mand Pork

Gee, I thought this was going to be about Razorback Football or Basketball!!!

Both parties spend money like crap through goose.
They just of finger pointing down to a fine art. The things that really empties the treasury:

1. Foreign Aid

2. Corporate Welfare

3. Paying Retirement for Every Senator/Rep thats held 1 or 2 or 3 terms as though the retired after 30 years.

4. Get screwed by over charging contractors- the legendary $400 hammer

5. Passing too many stupid **** laws leading to friviolous law suites. Laws could be passed to reverse this and still be just and fair.

6. Too many illegal immigrants.

7. IRS is too darn big

BOTH parties are to blame.

I'm an American, not Demo or a Repo!!



 
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Re: Re: Mad Pork Disease

Originally posted by Redranger03
If you were old enough to remember the 80's donno, you'd remember that your Democrat friends were crying the same thing. But by 1996 the Budget was balanced, thanks to those darn fiscal conservitive Republicans in Congress...
If I were I old enough to remember the 80's? I'm old enough to remember the 40's and I remember them all very well.

My Democrat friends? I'll have to ponder that one awhile.

"thanks to those "darn fiscal conservatives in Congress". I will assume you're not joking, it is hard to know.
Those "darn fiscal conservative Republicians in Congress" are still there - are they not? Can I expect those "darn conservative fiscal Republicians in Congress" to slow the record growth of our debt any time soon or are those "darn conservative fiscal Republicians in Congress " not so "darn fiscal conservative" at all?
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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duno, you're right of course. But I'm not yet ready to believe that Republicans are big spenders and Democrats believe that people are entitled to keep more of their money. Your "morning paper", as well as newspapers all across the country, are fearing a one sided, boring election next year, one that may not sell many papers, and they need ways to spruce things up a bit. If that's twice as much spending as five years ago, how about 4 years ago, or six years ago? Are they telling us the whole story?

I wonder how long it takes to go through 23 billion in totally wasted environmental spending. Weeks? Days? or minutes?

marc
Marc - I thought I had responded to this, but I don't see it so here goes again. First of all, I think you and I are on the same page, but you may have missed my point. The senator I spoke of in the post was a Democrat and despensing pork to placate constituents is a bipartisan practice with both parties crowded at the money trough. In my post I wanted to place a plague on both houses for mortgaging our future,
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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i have always wondered why we never get repaid all these foreign aid "loans", and why the govt just doesnt admit to the "black ops" funding instead of blaming it on $400 hammers!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Mad Pork Disease

Originally posted by dono
I am a registered Republician who voted for this President
.....dejavu.....


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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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dono,

Understood. I'm fairly new here and may have missed some previous discussion about this. But I'm thinking many readers may be new also - just thought I'd give a fresh answer to a fresh thread!

I'm a "lesser of the two evils" type of person. To me, when you say "this president never met a spending bill he didn't like" (may not be your exact quote, but close) you're empowering his political opponents. While they all SPEND, his opponents are more likely to WASTE, and redistribute. (steal) And violate the constitution.

Bush needs to be critisized, held accountable, but I hate to see it benifit Democrats.

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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by marc9000
I hate to see it benifit Democrats
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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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i say form a political party,have it represented by a pig then reorganize all parties.dejavo,dito?
 
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