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Here is a video I watched which lead me to switch out my CCV to the newer one. I feel like this guy was pretty thorough and accurate.
What I found interesting in my case was my early build 2017 came with the fist gen box, and not the model that he shows came on the 17-19. And the one on my truck is the one that created the crazy pressure which is the cause of my oil leaks.
If that’s the video from Red there are some other threads here with it too. Some good info in those threads. I ended up picking up a SPE reroute and external catch can. I plan to install it this summer. I put a 23 MY CCV on my 22 last summer to hold me over til this summer. If I change my mind and decide to stick with the recirculating box instead I will pick up the SPE one so I don’t have to keep swapping the whole box out.
If that’s the video from Red there are some other threads here with it too. Some good info in those threads. I ended up picking up a SPE reroute and external catch can. I plan to install it this summer. I put a 23 MY CCV on my 22 last summer to hold me over til this summer. If I change my mind and decide to stick with the recirculating box instead I will pick up the SPE one so I don’t have to keep swapping the whole box out.
Oh thanks, Im fairly new and hadn't seen the other threads. I might try and have a look and read up some.
Im hoping ford finally figured it out with the new one.
Im in Cali and trying to remain stock for the most part, partly because I could be selling or trading in someday. Ive made the mistake before of modifying like crazy and then it being a pain to get rid of. Otherwise I wouldve probably ditched it along with just about everything else on these things lol.
Oh thanks, Im fairly new and hadn't seen the other threads. I might try and have a look and read up some.
Im hoping ford finally figured it out with the new one.
Im in Cali and trying to remain stock for the most part, partly because I could be selling or trading in someday. Ive made the mistake before of modifying like crazy and then it being a pain to get rid of. Otherwise I wouldve probably ditched it along with just about everything else on these things lol.
Haha, that's why I am waiting til this summer to install my reroute... we got a contract in California right after I bought it, so it's in a storage shed in Florida right now. My plan is to install it this summer, however, I may be extending the CA contract another year... I may go ahead and install it anyway... I see lots of other actual deleted trucks here, although we are in the middle of farm country... lots of trucks, mud and crops!
I see after searching a bit this topic has been beat to death. I havent seen a way to delete my post, so moderator feel free to delete.
theres always new info emerging so I dont think the thread should be deleted.
for example...in the CCV non OEM solutions arena...just today..I found a thread where the woner of an SPE return to intake kit had excessive blow by upon installing the kit....hecalled SPE and then removed the intnernal box screen..and the excessive blow by was resolved...he put the screen back in and the excessive blow by returned. SPE wants his kit to see if there is some type of defect. so inthe case of the SPE return to intake kit there is apparently a flow limit which is caused by the internal screen.
so what that does that mean...so far to date...in my mind..if you are going to return to intake...the newest version of the ford ccv box seems to be the best option.
Im still looking for a vacuum based evacuation solution and have not found one yet.
theres always new info emerging so I dont think the thread should be deleted.
for example...in the CCV non OEM solutions arena...just today..I found a thread where the woner of an SPE return to intake kit had excessive blow by upon installing the kit....hecalled SPE and then removed the intnernal box screen..and the excessive blow by was resolved...he put the screen back in and the excessive blow by returned. SPE wants his kit to see if there is some type of defect. so inthe case of the SPE return to intake kit there is apparently a flow limit which is caused by the internal screen.
so what that does that mean...so far to date...in my mind..if you are going to return to intake...the newest version of the ford ccv box seems to be the best option.
Im still looking for a vacuum based evacuation solution and have not found one yet.
Ohh wow! I would love to hear SPE's comments about that. You got a link to that thread? I'd love to read more...
That's interesting. I wonder if the screen is responsible for all of it though, or if it's just the icing on the cake... the straw that broke the camels back... He is also using the internal catch can... makes me wonder if he has it installed/oriented correctly, however, if he has been talking with SPE already I would imagine that would have already been addressed. Makes me wonder if it does the same with the internal catch can removed... I wonder if there is more, or something else going on... Thanks for the link. I will be sure to keep up with it!
theres always new info emerging so I dont think the thread should be deleted.
for example...in the CCV non OEM solutions arena...just today..I found a thread where the woner of an SPE return to intake kit had excessive blow by upon installing the kit....hecalled SPE and then removed the intnernal box screen..and the excessive blow by was resolved...he put the screen back in and the excessive blow by returned. SPE wants his kit to see if there is some type of defect. so inthe case of the SPE return to intake kit there is apparently a flow limit which is caused by the internal screen.
so what that does that mean...so far to date...in my mind..if you are going to return to intake...the newest version of the ford ccv box seems to be the best option.
Im still looking for a vacuum based evacuation solution and have not found one yet.
Appreciate that information... that's interesting for sure. I was going to buy SPE's CCV box to replace my original CCV box that has been pre-filtered with the Mishimoto catch can, and now the Improved Racing CCR catch can using the Mishimoto adapters.
I liked the idea of being able to open up the SPE box to check and clean it...
So the fellow with the excessive pressure with the spe kit while the screen is installed…what we don’t know is if he had excessive pressure before he installed the spe ccv kit?
There was a video floating around from spe in which they flow tested their return to intake kit and it did very well so we really don’t know how much flow would it take to satisfy the owner with the back pressure problem. It seems to me that his engine has some serious internal problems perhaps ring blow by, etc.
what you have to keep in mind is that with an 8 cylinder engine…the cylinders should negate each other with normal pressure situations….for each cylinder creating case pressure there is at least 1 cylinder in opposite stroke creating vacuum.
If there is some blow by and the ccv would take care of that but if the engine is worn with bad ring dealing rebuild is the fix.
Haha, that's why I am waiting til this summer to install my reroute... we got a contract in California right after I bought it, so it's in a storage shed in Florida right now. My plan is to install it this summer, however, I may be extending the CA contract another year... I may go ahead and install it anyway... I see lots of other actual deleted trucks here, although we are in the middle of farm country... lots of trucks, mud and crops!
Yeah there are a lot of deleted rigs around. Im out in the sticks too, and had fully delete dmax. Im getting older and liking a little more quiet ride tbh.
So the fellow with the excessive pressure with the spe kit while the screen is installed…what we don’t know is if he had excessive pressure before he installed the spe ccv kit?
There was a video floating around from spe in which they flow tested their return to intake kit and it did very well so we really don’t know how much flow would it take to satisfy the owner with the back pressure problem. It seems to me that his engine has some serious internal problems perhaps ring blow by, etc.
what you have to keep in mind is that with an 8 cylinder engine…the cylinders should negate each other with normal pressure situations….for each cylinder creating case pressure there is at least 1 cylinder in opposite stroke creating vacuum.
If there is some blow by and the ccv would take care of that but if the engine is worn with bad ring dealing rebuild is the fix.
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