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That's interesting about Shell. I haven't seen too many Shells around here. I've seen the Texaco "Premium" (40 cetane), Exxon/Mobil (40 cetane), BP (40 cetane) and Amoco "Premium" (47 cetane). We have a Sunoco, but they don't carry diesel.
I don't usually frequent the other gas that do not have a brand association.
Originally posted by jschira I'd still prefer to get some Amoco Premium. They guarantee 50 cetane and start with premium base stocks. So it's better fuel to start out.
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I've unloaded premium diesel at Amoco stations, it came out of the Conoco refinery.
Wow, choices??? Haven't ever seen anything but #2 diesel, and sometimes lucky to find that. Haven't seen different grades of fuel anywhere in the south west, or I haven't been looking very hard but usually there is just a couple of pumps for #2 diesel and nothing about being premium. Guess I'll have to start looking closer, maybe I have been missing out because I would pay a little extra for the good stuff if I could.....
Try to locate a place selling B-20 biodiesel. Many of us in the Colorado Powerstroke club swear by it. It's regular diesel with 20% soy biodiesel added. Maybe 5 points higher cetane, super lubricity for the injectors and fuel pump and it cleans out fuel system deposits. And a much smoother, quieter engine, longer engine life, way less knock and cackle.
It gives you many of the benefits that additives are bought for, and unless I'm on the road and get a bad load of fuel I never use additives, even when it goes subzero. It's my own feeling that just like some gasoline additives, some diesel additives don't do jack for you or they make exaggerated claims.
When I go on long trips I try to take along a couple 5-gallon jugs of B-100 bio and dump one in each time I fill up at a truck stop to give me around a 20% blend.
Adding 20% biodiesel will raise the cloud and gel points of conventional diesel fuel by only 3 to 5 degrees F, it's really not a winter issue until you start pushing a 50-50 blend, and even then it depends on what you're blending it with- straight #2 or winterized diesel that is 30% kerosene. I personally don't view that as a practical problem that should prevent anyone from using it. I've been running 40% biodiesel this week as an anti-cackle experiment with no additives and no problems with morning temperatures dropping to around 10 degrees.
Paying $1.82/gallon for B-20, about the same extra cost as buying additives.
Last edited by Paarrothead; Dec 10, 2003 at 12:06 PM.
When I had my 2002 Dodge Cummins, I never worried about the fuel. Just when to the station and pumped it in! Last winter was COLD here ! I kept my truck plugged in alot, but no fuel additives. Is this something I should worry about with my Ford?
Thanks for posting the link for the Biodiesel. I found a station here in Albuquerque selling it. I didn't even know we had a station. I've been mixing mini batches myself for testing purposes for a couple of months now. Simple stuff to make, but kind of a pain. Have been using the used peanut oil from my turkey fryer. I would rather just buy it though.
As far as additives go...back in June of this year I got a bad load of diesel fuel from a Phillips 66. It was full of water, scum, and algae. Cost me $1000 to have the fuel system flushed, filters changed, etc. (of which Phillips denied my claim saying that they never have water in their tanks. yeah right). Anyway, the mechanics told me that everytime you fill up it was crap shoot as to what you were going to get and suggested additive every other tank at the minimum. They didn't recommend any specific brand, however. Just said to make sure that it contained a water dispersant. Anyway, I've been using Amzoil brand at about $16 a 16 oz. bottle. I think that's a little high myself. Maybe I will try the Deisel Kleen.
Originally posted by glangwell Anyway, I've been using Amzoil brand at about $16 a 16 oz. bottle. I think that's a little high myself. Maybe I will try the Deisel Kleen.
When I had my 2002 Dodge Cummins, I never worried about the fuel. Just when to the station and pumped it in! Last winter was COLD here ! I kept my truck plugged in alot, but no fuel additives. Is this something I should worry about with my Ford?
I put powerservice white bottle in when its gets around 10, one day it was -10
and my fuel gelled and I broke down. If you dont get below 20 I wouldnt worry about it..
I always buy my Deisel Kleen at Wal-Mart and noticed they raised the price by 30%. What the hell. I now pay about $16 for the 96 ounce size. It works, but the price keeps going up.