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Old Oct 17, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Toe in problems

So i have an 84 f150 4.9l with toe in problems. The technician i took it to, said both wheels are out, toe in at 3.8’. And he does not believe the camber bushing can correct that. He does not have any that will, nor does he know where i could get them. I just replaced the steering end links (all of them) and the coil springs with leveling springs that added about 1 1/2-2” lift. I cant help but think this is a common adjustment on these older trucks. What have you all done/ seen to correct this? And where can i find new camber bushings for this era?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2025 | 11:32 AM
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Wait - are we talking toe or camber? Toe is usually just a tie-rod adjustment.

If you lifted the truck with springs, that would almost certainly add to positive camber by putting the I beams at a greater angle. I actually went to lighter-duty front springs on mine to reduce the camber, although I have kingpins so I cant adjust otherwise aside from finding someone to bend the I-beams. I don't believe that person exists anymore.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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You can't lift these trucks with the springs, though I have heard you should be able to get 1.5 of spring lift back in with the bushings. What degree of bushing does the technician need? The alignment machine should have told him which one. Or maybe the machine said it can't do it.

The balljoint and bushing fits in a certain size hole in the spindle. That hole is only so big, so you do have a limit. Your easiest solution would be to take the springs back out. If you want to lift the truck, you need a lift kit for it.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2025 | 11:55 AM
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Here is a link to the bushing. You can see in the picture the hole is very near the edge, that is all you are going to get.

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My bad its camber, out by 3.8 degrees. Would anyone know if the 4 wd bushings are the same size as the Rwd? I cant seem to find any labeled Rwd. I still have the old springs if i need to go that route. But i dont like them much.
 

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All I see listed at rockauto is 4wd. I figured if the balljoint that fits in the middle is the same 4wd and 2wd, then there is a chance the 4wd would fit. But it looks like the 4wd balljoint is different than the 2wd balljoint, so I would be afraid it would not fit. This may have been what the alignment guy ran into. If you did find one for a 2wd, you would have to go back to him and ask which one he needed. You can see from your research they make all different degree bushings. This is because this one bushing, gets the caster and camber all in one shot. He has to get the balljoint in a sweet spot, where it leans the top in and out for camber, and also front to rear for caster at the same time.
 
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