I will admit, I was guilty of rollin coal on the Pri-i (plural of Prius's? lol) yrs ago, due to the fact that the majority of them didn't like/want others to have the freedom to choose what they drive, and yes, this is from conversations and remarks from the Pri-i drivers themselves... "why do you need such a big truck"... what, you get like 5 miles to the gallon in that, can't understand why you'd pay to drive it", etc... to the point where if one pulled in the station I would lay money on them having to say something. Yes, I'm in the communist state of Kalifornia run by a complete and total idiot and backed up by majority control and the notorious CARB and filled with those who believe the icebergs are melting, the sky is falling and everyone should rely on the gubment to take care of them...

I will say, back then, most of the Pri-i drivers were all about patting themselves on the back because they were going to save the planet single-handedly with all their Pri-i driving fellas, so yes, they were absolutely annoying... I have ridden in a few EV's, and yes they are impressive in acceleration, just wont work for me and what I use a truck for, now I do have friends that have bought the Tesla's because they fit the bill for a commuter car for them, and that makes sense for them, I don't knock them, but the EV's will never take the place of the ICE, and trying to force it on folks is where I have an issue with it... with Gaggin Nuisance attempting to ban all ICE by 2035 in Kalifornia... ridiculous to the point of absurdity.

And yes, bicyclists on curvy mtn roads with no bike lane... just asking for problems, we've had a few accidents caused by them on the 41/49 and other side roads up here, and yes, if they are in the vehicle lane, I will honk continuously until they move, I have not and will not smoke'em, but I'd like too... some of them have a very "king of the road" attitude and don't have the common sense or courtesy to get out of the way, or not ride on a road with no bike lane.

I've been on the 88, thankfully when there weren't any spandex 2 wheelers to try to avoid.

Rollin coal is childish, annoying and wastes fuel, but I have to say, sometimes it was entertaining... just like drag racing another big diesel SD in the city, traffic light to traffic light, we both had big SEG's and were laughing!

 

“In our work so far, many stakeholders have told me that the Obama and Biden EPAs twisted the law, ignored precedent, and warped science to achieve their preferred ends and stick American families with hundreds of billions of dollars in hidden taxes every single year. The Obama-Biden EPA used regulations as a political tool and hurt American competitiveness without results to show for it. The Endangerment Finding has long been a Democrat tool to issue burdensome regulations that ignore commonsense science in pursuit of radical Green New Deal aligned agendas."
EPA’s proposal also cites updated scientific data that challenge the assumptions behind the 2009 Endangerment Finding. Cited data includes the updated studies and information in the Department of Energy’s 2025 Climate Work Group study that is concurrently being released for public comment.

Just like anything "green" (windmills, solar panels), just follow the money! Al Gore didn't get rich trying to save the planet.

 

They all are capable of dumping smoke, and all of them(old and new) have to be modified or have an issue to dump smoke. You see it more in older trucks because younger people drive them/it is cheaper/easier to modify them/they are broken more often. I've been entertained by smoke, probably, but now the smoky trucks make me chuckle, seeing a truck that makes a whopping 475HP smoke like one that makes 1200HP, I just know the driver is indeed an idiot.

Most newer trucks, with a half decent tuner and reasonable mods will smoke very little if at all, typically only if you lug them and get under the turbo then try accelerating. I miss the old days when I was playing with my 6.0PSD and one of the big name tuners had a drop down or button on the tune pack product page to option for a smoky tune. Selecting it would take you to a separate page that would pretty much tell you that you are stupid lmao.

Personally, I'd look for other places to ride, if you are encountering those idiots relatively closely, I would be concerned about those or other idiots not paying attention and hitting me.

 

I agree with you.

 

There was this one "dude" with a Dudge blowing smoke like an illiterate child. Thought he was a basadd, but just ignorant. Caught him rolling smoke on my dash cam twice, sent them in to the EPA and funny thing, no longer see that truck on the road anymore. I guess he got a visit.

There was a time years back before the Vid, where some moron had a 12" stack coming out the bed of the truck, no muffler, just piped from the turbo to this fat can. It was LOUD, the idiot rolled coal in front of a County Mounty. Got to see it from the gas station where I was filling up. Needless to say, the truck was impounded and the guy footed it from there. JUSTICE.

Reason Diesel trucks have DEF/SCR, EGR, DPF is not for Climate as many think, but for cleaner air. The Clean Air Act is for health reasons, not climate. They work, the air is much cleaner.


Prius owners are the most arrogant snobbish bunch I have ever seen. I used to have one, joined a forum to find out more about the car and found that the vast majority on there were nose in the air I am saving the planet, snobs I have ever seen. I hated that car. Was so glad to get rid of it. Traded it on a Hyundai Veracruz, and actually MADE $3000 on the deal. Was behind one of those people this morning, speed up, slow down, speed up, slow down. Was putting my engine brake to the test with the ACC. I finally found a clear passing zone and just walked past it all quiet like doing 3 MPH faster. If y'all can't hold a steady freaking speed, use the damned cruise control.

 

Most people value reliability. The beef comes when reliability is compromised to appease legislators who live out a "Do as I say, Not as I Do" worldview. Any and all of the letter agencies should not be involved in private business, ever. No regulations, no financial support, no breaks, no incentives - zero. Ford and all others should focus on producing what the customer wants. In this case, it's a clean-burning diesel motor that achieves excellent fuel mileage and features a reliable drivetrain. That's 100% doable if the government would get out of the way.
And whoever posted about taking pictures of license plates to submit them to the EPA - are you serious? What a joke that would be. Let those idiots get caught doing something stupid, because they will. But snitching on them, that's asinine. And find somewhere else to ride your road bike - stop whining. Jeez, people today are the whiniest targets. This entire post is entertaining...

 

Where the only country that have the strictest Emissions . But we're gonna save the world. ALL Other countries Have a different rulebook I guess .

 

My favorite argument from EV pushers is using Norway as example of EV transition.

What these hardcore evangelists will never tell you is that
1: Norway uses heavy taxation on ICE vehicles to steer new purchasers

2: Norway uses money made on ICE drivers to subsidize road and infrastructure. Now they are running a budget gap as people do in fact opt to buy EVs to avoid taxes

3: Norway is the largest exporter of oil per capita, by far,

4: Norway only has about the population half the size of New York City.


https://www.wired.com/story/norway-e...c-vehicle-tax/

What one will notice is that even Norway didn't give each buyer 7500 dollars per unit of federal tax credit plus local incentives to get the units moving, unlike here. One would think if the US government under the previous administration truly cared about lowering overall emissions and fossil fuel use, similar subsidies would have been directed toward small hybrid vehicles as well, but no, that would be crazy. 5-8k lb EVs are the solution, apparently.

 

"Highly educated" is meaningless. I know plenty of 'highly educated' people who are complete morons.

 

I rode for many, many years. Riding the edge of the pavement is dangerous. You've eliminated one of your two escape routes (right or left) in the event you have to make a quick, evasive move for something in the roadway (debris, animal that jumps out, etc.).

If your best escape route is to the right, you are going down when you leave pavement at speed. Very poor philosophy, IMHO.

I always rode in the center-ish, staying just off any obvious slick areas resulting from oil dripping from autos and trucks.