Oddball Question? DIY Help??
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Oddball Question? DIY Help??
Looking for a somewhat accurate guess of the weight of a typical old-school two-piece toilet, completely empty of all water, the tank flush valve etc. This will be one with a lower bowl and the typical integral tank attached as installed in a mid-80's residence. This isn't anything like a high-rise or super efficient type, the the run-of-the-mill American-Standard or Kohler brand.
I'll be replacing the seal aka "wax ring" part that seems to be now replaced by the Fluidmaster #7530 or similar new-fangled creation. I'll be doing this completely by myself and don't want to damage the toilet or injure myself in the process.
TIA for any semi-accurate knowledge sharing!
I'll be replacing the seal aka "wax ring" part that seems to be now replaced by the Fluidmaster #7530 or similar new-fangled creation. I'll be doing this completely by myself and don't want to damage the toilet or injure myself in the process.
TIA for any semi-accurate knowledge sharing!
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There normally quite heavy, probably 60-70 lbs at least.
Why do you need to replace the wax ring? I looked up that part, that is a new one to me. I am involved in the renovation industry and replace, install toilets all the time. I always use wax rings. You need to get them from a plumbing supply store though, not a big box store, they will fail in a year or two.
Why do you need to replace the wax ring? I looked up that part, that is a new one to me. I am involved in the renovation industry and replace, install toilets all the time. I always use wax rings. You need to get them from a plumbing supply store though, not a big box store, they will fail in a year or two.
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I've changed 5 commodes in my days, 1 of them out of an early 70's home. Go to home depot website and look at the specs, it'll state weight. I don't remember any one of them as being overly heavy, strength is subjective, or different from one decade to the next, . Most are two pieces, the tank comes off.
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There normally quite heavy, probably 60-70 lbs at least.
Why do you need to replace the wax ring? I looked up that part, that is a new one to me. I am involved in the renovation industry and replace, install toilets all the time. I always use wax rings. You need to get them from a plumbing supply store though, not a big box store, they will fail in a year or two.
Why do you need to replace the wax ring? I looked up that part, that is a new one to me. I am involved in the renovation industry and replace, install toilets all the time. I always use wax rings. You need to get them from a plumbing supply store though, not a big box store, they will fail in a year or two.
Any experience with the Fluidmaster "no wax" device? And why not a brand name wax right from the big box people?
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The existing wax ring might be original to the dwelling, in-place since maybe 1985 or so? I accidently discovered the bowl and it's installed tank are very loose as the toilet can be rocked quite easily back + forth as well as side-to-to quite easily frightening far in all directions. There are absolutely no leaks but that's no good enough for me. It would appear without any dismantling of the installed assembly the metal floor mounted ring has rusted away because the mounting bolts are no longer holding onto anything secured to the plywood sub-floor. It's "safe" to use and flush but for how much longer? No idea how long this condition has existed and it's worth noting this is located in a mostly unused toilet so I have plenty of time, no dire emergently just yet---I don't wnat to tempt fate.
Any experience with the Fluidmaster "no wax" device? And why not a brand name wax right from the big box people?
Any experience with the Fluidmaster "no wax" device? And why not a brand name wax right from the big box people?
Not all but a lot of manufactures make a separate line of products just to be sold at big box stores. They do that for a better price point. For tools they can look the same but have slightly different model numbers. Been caught a couple of times even using good brand names. I have gotten caught a couple of times using wax seals from a big box store only to be called back in a year or two to discover that the wax seal has broken down and leaked. Not a happy discussion to have with a homeowner. The installation still looked and felt perfect but the seal failed.
Just passing on my knowledge. What you do with it, is up to you. I'm not offended one way or the other. Now I only buy plumbing stuff from a plumbing supply company.
Your toilet has had a good life if it is 40 years old. Must be a water hog.
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