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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 11:48 PM
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Rear Differential leak

I have an oil leak in my rear differential. See picture. I believe I have a Timken A150 with 4.86/1 gears.

I assume it is a bad seal? If so, Is it a difficult thing to change out on the truck?

I am inclined to leave it for now just so I can get it on the road.

Dripping at the bottom of the ring.
Dripping at the bottom of the ring.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 06:20 AM
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Hmmm, that drip is on ring of driveshaft towards front? Now why would the rear end oil go forward thru the U Joint and drip out the front? No I was looking at it wrong... I see it is coming out ft of rear end, Yep prolly pinion seal...
 
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 10:12 AM
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It's the pinion seal. The original is probably a felt seal which may or may not be difficult to find. It's really only an issue when the truck sits. The spiral groove in the yoke and the oil slinger prevent any significant loss when the truck is in motion. I'd place a pan under it when it's sitting and search for a part number for that seal.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 02:26 PM
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Amazing. So easy to find this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285795602781

I'm sure glad it wasn't as easy to find the seal for my F-6. If it had been I would never have stumbled on my life changing ring and pinion.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2025 | 11:38 PM
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I am ordering the seal today.

What else do I need? Crush sleeve, pinion nut, spacers?

Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 8pack
I am ordering the seal today.

What else do I need? Crush sleeve, pinion nut, spacers?

Thanks!
I believe thats not how these D44's work, you just take the yoke off, replace the seal, then torque the yoke back on, no preload stuff etc
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 09:35 AM
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A couple of questions after looking at the manual.

It says to Torque the pinion nut to 200-250ftlbs. I don't have a big enough torque wrench for that nor am I sure I can torque it that tightly as I don't have a breaker bar long enough to get that much torque. It says the preload should be 12-16inch/pnds. Is there a mechanic's trick to do this properly?

I assume inch pounds is measured with the wheels in the air and rotating the pinion nut clockwise. Tighten pinion nut until there is just enough resistance to trip the torque wrench?

I assume the pinion gear thrust washers are inside the pumpkin so I don't need to worry about that.




 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 10:34 AM
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Make an index mark on the nut and end of the pinion shaft. When you go back togther, tighten the nut to your reference marks.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 11:08 AM
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You can make a tool to hold the yoke by taking a 2-ft (or more) piece of 1/8" thick, 4"-wide steel, cutting a hole at one end large enough for the socket to fir thru, and with holes that match the yoke's holes for the u-joint. With the truck on the ground, attach the steel to the yoke with bolts, and rotate the pinion until the steel hits the ground. Then you can tighten the pinion nut. You really want a 3/4" drive and 6-point socket for this. You can lay on your back and use both hands, with your feet braced against the frame to get the torque needed.

Steve's tip is a good one but you may end up tightening more than original due to bearing wear, etc.

The spec for pinion preload is usually for a diff on the bench, no axles in place. Not much you can do about without a lot of extra work.


 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 02:13 PM
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Here's a pinion wrench I bought one time for the same job. It worked out pretty well.
It was $30 back when I bought 10 years ago. But turned out to be well worth it.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/81656/10002/-1?srsltid=AfmBOoowQHRKcJH7rOWVHMY52rVBZ6vZoqp77Zq-44YEB0TlHnpEiSP2COs


Edit:

Reading the review and comments on the linked page above they reminded me of something. This wrench face if I recall has 5/16 holes. But those holes would not exactly line up with the holes in the pinion flange. They said they then used 1/4" bolts and then the holes lined up. I believe I discovered the same thing. So if you order this just keep in mind that you may need to switch to a smaller diameter bolt when bolting on to the flange.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 03:41 PM
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Replace the seal and then use a 1/2" impact and tighten it up. There isn't a crush sleeve so nothing is going to change adjustment wise.

I don't put anything on the yoke except my hand and tighten with the impact. Tires on the ground and nothing is going anywhere and no need to make a holding fixture.

30 min job.

note:
the pinion wrench is for when you have to crush the sleeve when setting up the pinion on a unit that utilizes a crush sleeve.

even on a diff that utilizes a crush sleeve I still do it the same way as above just don't go crazy over tightening the pinion nut. Otherwise you then change the pinion setting.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 05:14 PM
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Thanks all!

It sounds like I need to mark where the nut was and use an impact wrench to get it back in place. I should have the seal Thursday and hopefully try then.

Do I need to drain the oil or just move quickly getting the new seal in ?!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2025 | 06:26 PM
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Thanks all!

It sounds like I need to mark where the nut was and use an impact wrench to get it back in place. I should have the seal Thursday and hopefully try then.

Do I need to stain the oil or just move quickly getting the new seal in ?!
it won't be a gusher you'll be fine
 
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Old Aug 14, 2025 | 01:49 PM
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Ok. One more.

Does the yoke need a puller to get it off or should it just slide off? More simply put, how does the yoke come off one the nut is removed.

I want to make sure I have everything I need before I start pulling it apart.

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