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Old Jun 20, 2025 | 08:28 PM
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E85 flex fuel

2017 with 80k that has never burned E85.

Would you start burning it or wouldn't you and why.

My gut says just keep using standard fuel.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2025 | 08:53 PM
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Should have more "solvent" properties, so might clean things out. Is it much cheaper where you live?
 
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Should have more "solvent" properties, so might clean things out. Is it much cheaper where you live?
about 50 cents cheaper. 2.75 or so.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2025 | 07:39 AM
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More corrosive is probably more like it. Regardless, the fuel systems are supposed to withstand it and designed to run on it if need be.

It's cheaper but you will probably get less mpg's. You'll just have to do the math and see. I know the hot rod guys love it because you can make some insane HP with it if you've got the right stuff.
 
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More corrosive is probably more like it. Regardless, the fuel systems are supposed to withstand it and designed to run on it if need be.

It's cheaper but you will probably get less mpg's. You'll just have to do the math and see. I know the hot rod guys love it because you can make some insane HP with it if you've got the right stuff.
yeah that is exactly what I was thinking.

I'm not concerned about fuel costs. I have always been fortunate that gas has always been a relatively small fraction of lifes expenses.

I was more curious what the ecm would do once it detected a high ethanol content since it has never seen it in 80k miles.

I am most likely never to use it UNLESS I happen to get a Whipple...........
 
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Procharger is a better option IMHO, but that's another story.

AFA the fuel type goes, there is a Flex Fuel Sensor that, according to the tuning tables in the PCM, adjusts the engine to run on a certain range of ethanol. If you've ever seen a show called Engine Masters, they do a whole show just on the "Magic of the Flex Fuel Sensor" season 7 episode 21. Pretty educational.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2025 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
Procharger is a better option IMHO, but that's another story.

AFA the fuel type goes, there is a Flex Fuel Sensor that, according to the tuning tables in the PCM, adjusts the engine to run on a certain range of ethanol. If you've ever seen a show called Engine Masters, they do a whole show just on the "Magic of the Flex Fuel Sensor" season 7 episode 21. Pretty educational.
probably a little easier to install. Not sure about the tuning aspect compared to the Ford Whipple option.

I do watch that show but missed that episode. Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can watch it.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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Yep, the alcohol in E85 is a solvent. Not to mention the co-solvents added to the fuel to keep it from separating.
Do you really want to "clean out" 85K worth of gunk and flush it through your injectors?
 
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
Yep, the alcohol in E85 is a solvent. Not to mention the co-solvents added to the fuel to keep it from separating.
Do you really want to "clean out" 85K worth of gunk and flush it through your injectors?
nope. That is why I'm asking opinions.
I also wonder how common it is to have a flex fuel vehicle that the original owner never used that fuel.
 
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Unless it is 25-30% less expensive that what you're currently running you will not save any money because you will use 25-30% more of it.
 
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Originally Posted by scott91370
Unless it is 25-30% less expensive that what you're currently running you will not save any money because you will use 25-30% more of it.
not looking to save money. Asking opinions on an 8 year old truck with 80k that has never drank e85 in its life. Is it even worth trying it to just simply try it.
 
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not looking to save money. Asking opinions on an 8 year old truck with 80k that has never drank e85 in its life. Is it even worth trying it to just simply try it.
OK Here's my opinion. There's just no up-side to this idea. At the best you'll have a vehicle that runs pretty much the same but gets 20% less fuel mileage. Or, you'll end up having to dump a bunch of $$$ into it to fix stuff that previously didn't need fixing.

It's a lose-lose situation.
 
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I've got a 2017 with 80,000 miles that I bought last year. I definitely got worse gas mileage and figured that E85 had to be about $.60 a gallon cheaper than normal unleaded to make a worthwhile. Manual says you need to run your tank low before switching grades of gasoline and that became a pain.
 
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
OK Here's my opinion. There's just no up-side to this idea. At the best you'll have a vehicle that runs pretty much the same but gets 20% less fuel mileage. Or, you'll end up having to dump a bunch of $$$ into it to fix stuff that previously didn't need fixing.

It's a lose-lose situation.
seems to be the consensus and what im thinking also. Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by Picky1962
I've got a 2017 with 80,000 miles that I bought last year. I definitely got worse gas mileage and figured that E85 had to be about $.60 a gallon cheaper than normal unleaded to make a worthwhile. Manual says you need to run your tank low before switching grades of gasoline and that became a pain.
yeah I read that also along with switching back to regular fuel occasionally or something of the sort.
 
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