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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 10:06 AM
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$5,600 to replace tail lamps


I am extremely black pilled when it comes to the auto industry. The future is incredible bleak, especially for used vehicles.

Does Ford even make a simple truck anymore? I don't want any expensive BS that is going to make me even poorer.

inb4 buy an old vehicle. That just isn't practical.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 10:42 AM
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sound like bull schnizzle to me.
boss had a broken tail lamp on his 2020.
only cost $490 for the light from ford and $75 to reprogram the computer to accept the new light last year.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 11:32 AM
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A broken tail lamp should cost 50 bucks and should take 2 minutes to swap.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 03:33 PM
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yea, but it is not 1997 any more
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 03:58 PM
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A chinese piece of plastic and a light bulb should cost nothing, regardless of what year.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2025 | 10:08 PM
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Might be a recall deal here

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/...-nhtsa/715032/
 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 02:14 PM
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That's for the Maverick not F150 and it's a software glitch that just needs reprogramming. The F 150 tail light issue is a completely different matter, it's related to water intrusion shorting out the MSCAN on trucks equipped with BLIS, which in turn causes the truck to shutdown or not restart after shutdown.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 09:41 PM
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Just goes to show ya, some people really hate having money. My trucks take 70 cent, 1157's. How do these people plan to retire someday? I don't get it.

 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
Just goes to show ya, some people really hate having money. My trucks take 70 cent, 1157's. How do these people plan to retire someday? I don't get it.
It's easy to understand, some people make more money than others and can afford the latest wizzbang gadgets, bells and whistles that cost a fortune to repair. This is where extended warranties shine.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2025 | 11:39 PM
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OK I stand corrected. Should be a recall issue. Water in the tail light and then no restart -- not a good design. Is it something to do with the CAN bus-- I've read numerous horror stories about that.
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OK I stand corrected. Should be a recall issue. Water in the tail light and then no restart -- not a good design. Is it something to do with the CAN bus-- I've read numerous horror stories about that.
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As I posted above, it's shorting out the MSCAN (Medium speed Controller Area Network).
 
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Old Jun 17, 2025 | 09:25 AM
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It's easy to understand, some people make more money than others and can afford the latest wizzbang gadgets, bells and whistles that cost a fortune to repair. This is where extended warranties shine.
Yes, but it's not about what you make, it's about what you keep and are able to invest to make even more. If you're making more, but saving less, then you'll be more poor than someone making less but saving more. Spending that kind of money on tail lights, is the equivalency of flushing your money down the toilet. There's no sugar coating this truth.

Keep the same $, invest it for 10 years at 12% instead and have over 10 grand ($12,320 in fact). Who wouldn't rather be 12 grand wealthier in 10 years, rather than 5.6k poorer? That's a difference of over 17 grand in 10 years, between a single poor choice and a good one.
Most people making poor decisions like this, probably wont even have the truck in 10 years and be wasting even more on top of the initial poor decision. These poor choices are compounded by a poor mentality. Income level doesn't buy you a wealthy mentality. Only multi millionaires and billionaires can afford to be careless with their money, but of course they're not because they wouldn't have gotten there by being careless.

The vast majority of US citizens are in debt today. This is because they think, they can afford to be careless with their money. They can't actually afford the latest wizzbang gadgets, bells and whistles that cost a fortune to repair.


What's worse is, studies have shown all theses so called "saftey features" added to cars and trucks are making less safe drivers. The human brain works like a super computer, and it will take shortcuts and block out info it believes it doesn't need to focus on. The more crap your tail lights are telling you to do for "saftey" are actually, literally, making you a less safe and aware driver. He'll be 17k down, have a false sense of security, be a much less safe driver, all within a decade from a single poor choice..... But I guess he'll be admired and looked up to by others with the same poor mentality with equal or more debt.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2025 | 10:02 AM
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Dave Ramsey has entered the chat
 
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Old Jun 17, 2025 | 02:35 PM
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haha, the other extreme, but it much wiser to lean towards his direction than the average US citizen, for sure!

I actually forgot to account for the fact, that most US citizens can't even cover a $400 emergency, so this means they'd be 99% likely to put that $5,600 on a 15-20% or higher credit card! So I wont even bother doing the math, but it could bring such a foolish mistake closer to 20 grand less in your pocket after a decade!

One can literally claim this financial mistake is 70 cents for a 1157 bulb, by running an old truck vs 20 grand loss. That's so insane, it's hard to imagine it's reality. That's just a single decision. Compound how many more the same person is likely making in other aspects of their life and no doubt it will make your head spin. Then the same people are no doubt complaining how they can't get ahead too. No clue they're their own worst enemy. Being materialistic rather than content, is far more costly than most people will ever know.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2025 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
Yes, but it's not about what you make, it's about what you keep and are able to invest to make even more. If you're making more, but saving less, then you'll be more poor than someone making less but saving more. Spending that kind of money on tail lights, is the equivalency of flushing your money down the toilet. There's no sugar coating this truth.

Keep the same $, invest it for 10 years at 12% instead and have over 10 grand ($12,320 in fact). Who wouldn't rather be 12 grand wealthier in 10 years, rather than 5.6k poorer? That's a difference of over 17 grand in 10 years, between a single poor choice and a good one.
Most people making poor decisions like this, probably wont even have the truck in 10 years and be wasting even more on top of the initial poor decision. These poor choices are compounded by a poor mentality. Income level doesn't buy you a wealthy mentality. Only multi millionaires and billionaires can afford to be careless with their money, but of course they're not because they wouldn't have gotten there by being careless.

The vast majority of US citizens are in debt today. This is because they think, they can afford to be careless with their money. They can't actually afford the latest wizzbang gadgets, bells and whistles that cost a fortune to repair.


What's worse is, studies have shown all theses so called "saftey features" added to cars and trucks are making less safe drivers. The human brain works like a super computer, and it will take shortcuts and block out info it believes it doesn't need to focus on. The more crap your tail lights are telling you to do for "saftey" are actually, literally, making you a less safe and aware driver. He'll be 17k down, have a false sense of security, be a much less safe driver, all within a decade from a single poor choice..... But I guess he'll be admired and looked up to by others with the same poor mentality with equal or more debt.
This is a truck forum not a financial advice column lol. If one can't manage their money, that's on them. I don't like the way these things cost either but I can afford them should I so desire. I did some quick research on those lights and modules and 5600 isn't close to what they actually cost, more like 1400 per housing and another 400 for the module. I think that video up there may have been California or Canada pricing.

Only reason I looked it up is because the 2025 Lightning I just bought has them.

As far as the brain filtering out data, that's a given but not at the same level for everyone, I find the enhancements make them safer because some times our brains filter out important stuff like that kid playing in the driveway that got run over by their parent backing out. That's what started the backup camera addition.

GPS, gotta know where to go when travelling unfamiliar places. ABS, when it activates for you and saves you from a wreck, you'll appreciate that as well, I know I do as it saved my life and the idiot driver of a car that pulled out in front of me while I was travelling the speed limit @ 55 mph, if the brakes had locked up, I would have slid right into their driver door and killed them. I was able to steer around them instead because the ABS kept them from locking up. The list goes on and on and every safety feature usually started with the death of a few people.

Way too many luddites in this technologically advanced age we live in and it's only going to get better, the last part is subjective obviously lol.
 
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