E brake woes.
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E brake woes.
Replaced drums shoes all hardware, noticed was missing spreader bar spring clip, replaced that. new driver side rear cable old one was seized. Pass side still has movement is fairly new. Single front cable seems pretty new. tires rotate 1 - 1 1/4 revolution. Brakes seemingly adjusted properly. Brakes operate as they should.
Holds when tires are in air. Doesn't hold weight of truck on anything steeper than 20%.
Pedal does go to floor, is this normal? It isn't easy to push to the floor but should it stop half way and be tight? Maybe front cable has too much slack? Like I could hook up my rear cable to the 2-1 bracket with relative ease. Isnt that supposed to be a bitch?
truck will slowly roll through gear. I have read standard has no pawl and on steep enough grade it will roll through gear. Is this correct?
should I replace all the cables? They do pull even when engaged.
Holds when tires are in air. Doesn't hold weight of truck on anything steeper than 20%.
Pedal does go to floor, is this normal? It isn't easy to push to the floor but should it stop half way and be tight? Maybe front cable has too much slack? Like I could hook up my rear cable to the 2-1 bracket with relative ease. Isnt that supposed to be a bitch?
truck will slowly roll through gear. I have read standard has no pawl and on steep enough grade it will roll through gear. Is this correct?
should I replace all the cables? They do pull even when engaged.
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Replaced drums shoes all hardware, noticed was missing spreader bar spring clip, replaced that. new driver side rear cable old one was seized. Pass side still has movement is fairly new. Single front cable seems pretty new. tires rotate 1 - 1 1/4 revolution. Brakes seemingly adjusted properly. Brakes operate as they should.
Holds when tires are in air. Doesn't hold weight of truck on anything steeper than 20%.
Pedal does go to floor, is this normal? It isn't easy to push to the floor but should it stop half way and be tight? Maybe front cable has too much slack? Like I could hook up my rear cable to the 2-1 bracket with relative ease. Isnt that supposed to be a bitch?
truck will slowly roll through gear. I have read standard has no pawl and on steep enough grade it will roll through gear. Is this correct?
should I replace all the cables? They do pull even when engaged.
Holds when tires are in air. Doesn't hold weight of truck on anything steeper than 20%.
Pedal does go to floor, is this normal? It isn't easy to push to the floor but should it stop half way and be tight? Maybe front cable has too much slack? Like I could hook up my rear cable to the 2-1 bracket with relative ease. Isnt that supposed to be a bitch?
truck will slowly roll through gear. I have read standard has no pawl and on steep enough grade it will roll through gear. Is this correct?
should I replace all the cables? They do pull even when engaged.
Your truck in gear and wheels toward the curb should not roll, but a steep enough hill and low compression engine will move yes
You also may have stretched cables on the wheel and forward
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you didnt say anything about adjusting the parking brake so im gonna assume the pedal wasnt adjusted
Your truck in gear and wheels toward the curb should not roll, but a steep enough hill and low compression engine will move yes
You also may have stretched cables on the wheel and forward
Your truck in gear and wheels toward the curb should not roll, but a steep enough hill and low compression engine will move yes
You also may have stretched cables on the wheel and forward
how does one adjust the pedal?
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im assuming the front single cable is stretched as I can hook up the cables to the 2 to 1 equalizer bracket with relative ease. From other videos ive seen people struggle to get that connection.
I mean I still struggle. Have to pull the rear cable out and the front one back and just barely get it to slip into the hole.
but when I depress pedal the cable is solid tight. Zero slack. So I dunno wtf.
literally everyone has a different opinion on how drum brake adjustment should go.
with tires in the air. “Feel” means nothing to me. How many revolutions should the tire spin. I have been told and heard 1 - 1 1/4 spin. Do you think more? Less? Of course I can tighten the shoes up so tight that the tire barely spins then my e brake will work.
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im assuming the front single cable is stretched as I can hook up the cables to the 2 to 1 equalizer bracket with relative ease. From other videos ive seen people struggle to get that connection.
I mean I still struggle. Have to pull the rear cable out and the front one back and just barely get it to slip into the hole.
but when I depress pedal the cable is solid tight. Zero slack. So I dunno wtf.
literally everyone has a different opinion on how drum brake adjustment should go.
with tires in the air. “Feel” means nothing to me. How many revolutions should the tire spin. I have been told and heard 1 - 1 1/4 spin. Do you think more? Less? Of course I can tighten the shoes up so tight that the tire barely spins then my e brake will work.
I mean I still struggle. Have to pull the rear cable out and the front one back and just barely get it to slip into the hole.
but when I depress pedal the cable is solid tight. Zero slack. So I dunno wtf.
literally everyone has a different opinion on how drum brake adjustment should go.
with tires in the air. “Feel” means nothing to me. How many revolutions should the tire spin. I have been told and heard 1 - 1 1/4 spin. Do you think more? Less? Of course I can tighten the shoes up so tight that the tire barely spins then my e brake will work.
the pedal provides mechanical advantage that amplifies the force you apply
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Drums Installed
- Raise vehicle, and support with safety stands. Remove adjusting hole cover rubber plug. Turn adjusting screw and expand brake shoes until drag is felt against brake drum.
- Loosen adjusting screw 10-12 notches. Drum should rotate freely without drag. If drum does not rotate freely, remove wheel and drum. Lubricate brake shoe contact areas on backing plate.
- Reinstall wheel and drum. Install adjusting hole cover. Apply brakes. If brake pedal travels more than halfway to floor, clearance between brake shoes and drums is too great. Additional adjustment is required.
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Drums Installed
- Raise vehicle, and support with safety stands. Remove adjusting hole cover rubber plug. Turn adjusting screw and expand brake shoes until drag is felt against brake drum.
- Loosen adjusting screw 10-12 notches. Drum should rotate freely without drag. If drum does not rotate freely, remove wheel and drum. Lubricate brake shoe contact areas on backing plate.
- Reinstall wheel and drum. Install adjusting hole cover. Apply brakes. If brake pedal travels more than halfway to floor, clearance between brake shoes and drums is too great. Additional adjustment is required.
my brakes are great. E brake doesnt work
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you shouldnt have an easy time doing that without the tension in the cables being relieved. The cables are steel wire. they can stretch out considerably if they were old and things were seized or got used a lot. it will still be tight but it wont be 1 for 1 movement
the pedal provides mechanical advantage that amplifies the force you apply
the pedal provides mechanical advantage that amplifies the force you apply
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ah ok. Yeah I can put my pedal to the floor easily. But if I adjust my pads so that my tire only rotates half a turn then it stops halfway.