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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 01:42 PM
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Squat solution?

Thinking of getting an RoadActive suspension kit for 22 F350 (10.9k GVWR, 3850 payload, HF WDH). I usually try to tow during the day but noticed a few ppl flashing me on the backroads after dark. Not sure if I want to adjust the headlight aiming and throw them off when not towing. Is RAS a simple solution?
Appreciate any input... TIA



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Currently slightly heavier, closer to 10k trailer

 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 02:42 PM
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The RAS system you mentioned has a solid-ish reputation, mostly popular among RV'ers.

Is there a reason you're specifically looking at the RAS vice supplemental load leveling airbags?
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonm23
The RAS system you mentioned has a solid-ish reputation, mostly popular among RV'ers.

Is there a reason you're specifically looking at the RAS vice supplemental load leveling airbags?
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It's an XL work truck with manual windows/locks...trying to keep it hammer simple.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 05:56 PM
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That RAS looks cheesy. Air bags or a weight distributing hitch I think would be better.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nychan
It's an XL work truck with manual windows/locks...trying to keep it hammer simple.
The way I run airbags is pretty simple.

Each airbag has a line to a Schrader valve on the rear bumper. I use a bicycle pump and a tire gauge to adjust the air pressure.

No onboard air system ( well unless to count a hand operated bicycle pump) , no remote reading in cab gauges, just Schrader valves on the bumper.

And you probably air down the tires of that Jeep on at the trail head anyway, so it’s not like you don’t already have an air compressor with you.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 08:15 PM
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HF WDH: Is there a way to configure the WDH to distribute more weight to the front axle? If not, you may want to consider a different WDH, one that can exert more force. I pull a heavier (tongue and GVWR) bumper pull trailer than yours and my truck doesn't squat as much as yours.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
HF WDH: Is there a way to configure the WDH to distribute more weight to the front axle? If not, you may want to consider a different WDH, one that can exert more force. I pull a heavier (tongue and GVWR) bumper pull trailer than yours and my truck doesn't squat as much as yours.
That does seem like a lot of squat for only 1,000lbs of tongue weight, what is the rating of the HF WD hitch and can you adjust it to transfer more weight like Jim suggested above? My built EX didn’t look that squatted with our old TT’s 1860lbs of tongue weight.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 06:04 AM
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Have you heard of these? These are easy to install and engage the upper overload spring earlier.

https://superspringsinternational.com/superstops/
 
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Originally Posted by Antonm23
The way I run airbags is pretty simple.

Each airbag has a line to a Schafer valve on the rear bumper. I use a bicycle pump and a tire gauge to adjust the air pressure.

No onboard air system ( well unless to count a hand operated bicycle pump) , no remote reading in cab gauges, just Schafer valves on the bumper.

And you probably air down the tires of that Jeep on at the trail head anyway, so it’s not like you don’t already have an air compressor with you.
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My setup is the same, except I use a 12 volt air compressor that stays in the truck. 5 psi when empty and 15-30 psi when towing, depending on the load.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 08:59 AM
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It doesn't seem like you are getting enough weight transfer back to your front axle. My F350 front axle is 4,000 pounds without a load. 7.3 gasser.

Is your initial ball height correct? It should be about 1" higher than the distance from the ground to the inside of your coupler when the trailer is level.

Are you getting enough pressure on your weight distribution bars?

Is your weight distribution sytsem properly sized for the load?

1,000 pounds should not look like that with a properly adjusted WDH and with your payload capacity. I'm pulling a 700 pound tongue with WDH on my F350 and it is perfectly flat. Something seems amiss. Go back through your WDH setup before moving on to other solutions.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 10:45 AM
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Do you have additional weight in the bed of the truck? I'd be questioning that tongue scales accuracy with having 5460lbs rear axle weight. Your truck empty will probably have around 3000 - 3300lbs rear axle weight, and your scale weight shows over 2k lbs more rear axle weight hooked to the trailer.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
HF WDH: Is there a way to configure the WDH to distribute more weight to the front axle? If not, you may want to consider a different WDH, one that can exert more force. I pull a heavier (tongue and GVWR) bumper pull trailer than yours and my truck doesn't squat as much as yours.
I think moving up links on the chains increases weight tfer to front axle. The heavier setup you have, is it std hitch or WDH?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
That does seem like a lot of squat for only 1,000lbs of tongue weight, what is the rating of the HF WD hitch and can you adjust it to transfer more weight like Jim suggested above? My built EX didn’t look that squatted with our old TT’s 1860lbs of tongue weight.
That's what I'm thinking as well. Should it be squatting 2" when it has a 3850lb payload? There is camping gear in the bed, mainly stuff I'd like to keep dry, otherwise gear rides on trailer.

HF WDH is a 10k cap, w/ 1k TW. I saved the orig directions from when I bought it (attachment). Seems like HF changes manuals pretty often, currently 4 versions.

 

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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nychan
I think moving up links on the chains increases weight tfer to front axle. The heavier setup you have, is it std hitch of WDH?
I am using an Andersen WDH, which is rated up to 16K. Below is a link to the write-up I created a few years ago.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ion-hitch.html
 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich1961
Do you have additional weight in the bed of the truck? I'd be questioning that tongue scales accuracy with having 5460lbs rear axle weight. Your truck empty will probably have around 3000 - 3300lbs rear axle weight, and your scale weight shows over 2k lbs more rear axle weight hooked to the trailer.
Not really that much weight in bed... maybe a couple hundred pounds of tools/camping gear. The tongue weight is seen directly on tongue weight scale. The weights with yellow background are Cat scale tickets (full ticckets below). I hit the scale fully loaded, removed the jeep and reweighed. Intention was to get accurate jeep weight.




 
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