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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 05:26 PM
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Locked up 6.9

I recently picked up a ‘83 F250 4wd 6.9 with a C6. The motor is locked. I have taken the glowplugs out and filled the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and have let it sit for a week or so. I took a breaker bar and tried rocking on the 15/16 bolt on the crank and the bolt broke in half. What am I in for with getting this bolt out and any advice on how to get this thing unstuck would greatly be appreciated. Im a broke teenager with a tight budget.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 10:45 PM
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I don't have any experience with a locked up engine, but my guess is, you're SOL, sorry bud, start looking for a new engine.
If you have access to a borescope you may be able to snake one in and see what the cylinder walls look like, but I'm not sure if you can get through the injector precups and down into the cylinder itself that way or not. May need to pull an injector as well to get in there.
Just to make sure, glow plugs are still out while you are trying to turn it over?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 11:47 PM
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I don't have any experience with a locked up engine, but my guess is, you're SOL, sorry bud, start looking for a new engine.
If you have access to a borescope you may be able to snake one in and see what the cylinder walls look like, but I'm not sure if you can get through the injector precups and down into the cylinder itself that way or not. May need to pull an injector as well to get in there.
Just to make sure, glow plugs are still out while you are trying to turn it over?
Yes glow plugs are out, I think I was able to break it free because some of the oil came bubbling out of the glow plug holes but I didn’t get far before the bolt broke off.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 04:33 AM
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Do you have the ability to remove the engine and put it on an engine stand? Doing the work with the engine in the truck would be PITA
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Griffen Burton
I recently picked up a ‘83 F250 4wd 6.9 with a C6. The motor is locked. I have taken the glowplugs out and filled the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and have let it sit for a week or so. I took a breaker bar and tried rocking on the 15/16 bolt on the crank and the bolt broke in half. What am I in for with getting this bolt out and any advice on how to get this thing unstuck would greatly be appreciated. Im a broke teenager with a tight budget.
I find that diesel fuel works just as good and is much cheaper. I would take an oring seal pick and see if the stud has any movement to give you some idea of the task ahead. If you have an angled drill you may be able to drill and remove the stud without removing the radiator/etc.
You can take the starter off and try to rock the engine with the starter teeth on the flywheel.

 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 06:29 AM
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if the engine was that stuck, i would just pull it out now, and pull it apart. because you WILL be pulling it out and apart later anyway.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 07:02 AM
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Usually, broken bolts can be removed either by using a bolt extractor, or by welding another head on them. I presume it broke in a way the welding is not option, so you need to use a bolt extractor. Make sure you don't break a bolt extractor because removing broken bolt extractors is a real PITA.

If the engine stuck really badly, you may want to remove the pistons one-by-one until the crankshaft is turning. You preferably want the engine out for that.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 08:40 AM
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It may be too late for much help but whenever I am dealing with a stuck threaded item like a bolt or glow plug I gently work it back and forth once it begins to loosen in the hopes that whatever lube I am using will spread out and cover more surface area-- no idea if that would apply to a seized engine. At least you get the opportunity to tear one down and learn a lot if you can afford some new parts. A part-time job and some patience might result in a nice engine.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
Do you have the ability to remove the engine and put it on an engine stand? Doing the work with the engine in the truck would be PITA
Yes I have a big tractor that I can pull it out with and I plan on ordering a engine stand tonight. (Is 1250lbs enough to hold it?) I will work on extracting that bolt as well. I am a bit skeptical of removing the engine because I am not confident in being able to mate the engine back to the tranny afterwards, I know a little about motors but nothing about transmissions.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 05:11 PM
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You mentioned the truck has a C6. Before you remove the engine separate the engine and transmission. Also, go underneath the truck and remove the torque converter from the flywheel. Then when you pull the engine the transmission and torque converter will stay in the truck.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 05:57 PM
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You mentioned the truck has a C6. Before you remove the engine separate the engine and transmission. Also, go underneath the truck and remove the torque converter from the flywheel. Then when you pull the engine the transmission and torque converter will stay in the truck.
How do I pull the torque converter off? Is it just bolted to the flywheel or is there a bracket holding it up?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 06:04 AM
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to remove the converter you unbolt it from the flywheel.
and support the front of the trans before pulling the engine. it is mounted to the truck by the transfer case adapter at the back of the trans.
if you leave the trans unsupported when pulling the engine, there is very good chance the adaptor will break.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 06:42 AM
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Thanks for the heads up Tom.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
You mentioned the truck has a C6. Before you remove the engine separate the engine and transmission. Also, go underneath the truck and remove the torque converter from the flywheel. Then when you pull the engine the transmission and torque converter will stay in the truck.
Pretty sure thats not going to work, don't you have to turn the flywheel to reach all the torque converter bolts? I've not pulled an automatic before, but thought that you remove the flywheel cover and work your way around unbolting the torque converter while turning the engine/flywheel.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Griffen Burton
I recently picked up a ‘83 F250 4wd 6.9 with a C6. The motor is locked. I have taken the glowplugs out and filled the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil and have let it sit for a week or so. I took a breaker bar and tried rocking on the 15/16 bolt on the crank and the bolt broke in half. What am I in for with getting this bolt out and any advice on how to get this thing unstuck would greatly be appreciated. Im a broke teenager with a tight budget.
A broke teen won't be able to do anything sensible or reasonable to get such an old truck with a seized up diesel engine going again, for anything resembling a reasonable amount of money. I wouldn't even do this. This is something best left to expert engine builders and or retirees with lots of time and money on their hands.

Even a good used IDI truck all running, is very, very poor choice for a broke teen. These trucks are very expensive to run. Cheap compared to modern diesel trucks, but very expensive compared to what you need; a little Honda civic with a 4 cylinder. This will be pennies on the dollar to run comparatively. Don't mess with the old truck. The more you break, the less you're going to be able to sell it for, and less small car that you need, you're going to be able to buy. As soon as you pull the engine; it's going to get you less, even if it is locked up because then someone needs to tow the truck and lift the engine to haul it off. Easier for them still in the truck.
 
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