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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Timing help

I have a 1982 f350 dually with a 351 Windsor I've rebuilt and am trying to get the timing right. I've run into a problem where there is no timing marks on the timing cover whatsoever so I put the line on the harmonic balancer about at 2 o'clock on compression stroke but still don't think it's quite right. Anyone have any tips maybe about where I should line up at. This is the first engine I've rebuilt so I don't have any experience with timing.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 09:12 AM
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I'm not sure but ask over here too. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum55/
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Akumothesaiyan
I've run into a problem where there is no timing marks on the timing cover whatsoever so I put the line on the harmonic balancer...
My ‘89 302 and ‘94 351W had a timing pointer that attached to the cover bolts. I’d expect the marks to be cast into the cover if there was no separate pointer. What “line” on the balancer did you use? The groove in the balancer or an actual timing mark?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
My ‘89 302 and ‘94 351W had a timing pointer that attached to the cover bolts. I’d expect the marks to be cast into the cover if there was no separate pointer. What “line” on the balancer did you use? The groove in the balancer or an actual timing mark?
It was a groove in the balancer
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 02:45 PM
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You should have something like this, do you have any parts in a box somewhere ?


 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Akumothesaiyan
It was a groove in the balancer
The grove shown in the picture above? That is not a timing mark. The timing marks will have several hash marks to set the degrees before and after TDC.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
The grove shown in the picture above? That is not a timing mark. The timing marks will have several hash marks to set the degrees before and after TDC.
That's the crank shaft index. TDC #1. The timing marks are on the engine showing degrees. On the plate above the crank. Looks like the numbers are not visible.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue2
That's the crank shaft index. TDC #1. The timing marks are on the engine showing degrees. On the plate above the crank. Looks like the numbers are not visible.
Not on my balancers.



 

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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 04:01 PM
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Kind of my point was, hoping the OP would show us what he's working with, as we realize things are different for different engines and years. Mine is an 86 302EFI. I just grabbed a photo that I took some time ago. In the 30 odd years, I've owned the truck, I have not put a timing light on it. The trusted mechanic did some years ago when he replaced the dizzy.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
Kind of my point was, hoping the OP would show us what he's working with, as we realize things are different for different engines and years. Mine is an 86 302EFI. I just grabbed a photo that I took some time ago. In the 30 odd years, I've owned the truck, I have not put a timing light on it. The trusted mechanic did some years ago when he replaced the dizzy.
I will take some pictures when I get home
 
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Not on my balancers.



There you go. All the Fords I have have marks engraved in the balancer. Like the picture above, you have to clean them up with sandpaper to see them. I use white-out to mark about 10 BTDC so I can easily see it with the timing light later. You should have a single pointer on the engine. Not saying they never did it, but all my Fords don't have a scale on the engine, only 1 pointer on the engine.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 05:34 PM
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I seem to recall seeing marks like My4Fordtrucks, shows, but I'm in VT skiing and won't be able to check my truck for a few days.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
There you go. All the Fords I have have marks engraved in the balancer. Like the picture above, you have to clean them up with sandpaper to see them. I use white-out to mark about 10 BTDC so I can easily see it with the timing light later. You should have a single pointer on the engine. Not saying they never did it, but all my Fords don't have a scale on the engine, only 1 pointer on the engine.
Thanks I'll look for those but what do they line up to? Only thing I could think of is a singular arrow at 12 o'clock on my timing cover

 
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Originally Posted by Akumothesaiyan
Thanks I'll look for those but what do they line up to? Only thing I could think of is a singular arrow at 12 o'clock on my timing cover
That's it. If you have a piece of metal hanging near the damper, that is what you align the marks to.

Here's a good picture what they usually look like.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
That's it. If you have a piece of metal hanging near the damper, that is what you align the marks to.

Here's a good picture what they usually look like.

I don't have that piece of metal on it though just a mark at 12 o'clock above the balancer on the timing cover
 
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