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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 09:46 AM
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Dual oil filter system???

Anyone have suggestions or knowledge of a 6.7 secondary oil system?
I like the theory. Something like this. Thoughts?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 10:02 AM
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If you're interested in pushing out oil change intervals they will pay for themselves. I did a fair amount of research into them, ultimately I decided for my use case not to install one. I do think they are great systems and if they work for your use case I'd recommend looking into one.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 12:58 PM
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I use the FS2500 oil bypass filter and let the truck tell me when to change the oil. Usually 7k to 7.4k miles. The used oil gets analyzed and comes back good...

I now use the spin on conversation kit with a huge oil filter. I run them out longer also.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 01:42 PM
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I think it would be a lot less expensive and risky to just change the OE filter every 5k miles. It takes what, 60 seconds? I'm using the Baldwin filters with slightly higher micron rating.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 02:15 PM
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there is aa 900,000 mile 6.7 engine on youtube right now. that engine had the toilet roll 1 micron filter since new. all the wear surfaces still looked new with now wear.

I use the dual 2 micron amsoil filter tapped into a sesor port and returns to the oil pan. I also run a metal screen filter (claimed to have 7x oil flow) in place of the stock filter.


I do not believe a stock truck driven in a metro area should have extended drains due to fuel dilution....so in my mind if you are a metro driver and your buying the oil filter relocation kit to extend oil drains i think that would be a mistake.

you dont have to relocate the main filter to run a 2 micron by pass....there are other amsoil options.


make sure you dont give a crap about your warranty before throwing after market parts on the engine.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2025 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
I think it would be a lot less expensive and risky to just change the OE filter every 5k miles. It takes what, 60 seconds? I'm using the Baldwin filters with slightly higher micron rating.
I mean I run the bypass filter out longer not the primary oil filter. Should have stated it clearer. The primary filter gets changed with the oil. I pull off the FS2500 bypass filter and let it drain, then install it back on. No problems...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
there is aa 900,000 mile 6.7 engine on youtube right now. that engine had the toilet roll 1 micron filter since new. all the wear surfaces still looked new with now wear.

I use the dual 2 micron amsoil filter tapped into a sesor port and returns to the oil pan. I also run a metal screen filter (claimed to have 7x oil flow) in place of the stock filter.


I do not believe a stock truck driven in a metro area should have extended drains due to fuel dilution....so in my mind if you are a metro driver and your buying the oil filter relocation kit to extend oil drains i think that would be a mistake.

you dont have to relocate the main filter to run a 2 micron by pass....there are other amsoil options.


make sure you dont give a crap about your warranty before throwing after market parts on the engine.
What is the toilet roll 1 micron filter? Who makes it?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DoomsFall
What is the toilet roll 1 micron filter? Who makes it?
Here's an article that's informative.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/mainte...y-a-good-idea/

https://www.frantzfilters.com/science/

Frantz made it originally IIRC, but there is another company out there that sells it as well.

https://www.frantzfilters.com/produc...d-powerstroke/

From there,

About Frantz Filters

Established in 1953 by John Frantz, the Frantz Filter Company became a mainstay product and process for cleaning automotive oil worldwide. Over the years, Frantz Filters has stood for innovation in the oil filtration process.

In 2014, Frantz Filters was purchased by Lubrication Specialties, Inc. (LSI), the makers of Hot Shot’s Secret products which focuses on problem specific solutions for diesel engines. “Frantz Filter is a strategic fit with the LSI line up of companies,” states Chris Gabrelcik, president of LSI. “The same powered by science approach we take in developing Hot Shot’s Secret products has been applied to reinventing the Frantz Filter media to create an optimal filtration process offered exclusively through LSI.”

LSI specializes in hard-to-handle lubrication areas. The company has resolved problems for some of the largest companies in North America, including: Nucor Steel, American Showa, Midwest Industries, X-Tec, among others. LSI’s ultimate goal is to figure out what the problem or inefficiency is, and to fix it using the latest lubrication, additives or equipment available. The company’s flagship product, Hot Shot’s Secret Stiction Eliminator, was developed for International Truck and Engine *to resolve the issue with injectors on the Ford Power Stroke 6.0 liter engine.*

*sorry Troy, not trying to trigger you...


I used to see this kit sold online on a different website, cannot remember name but do remember that powder coated bracket, but maybe since Hot Shots bought the rights, these have just dried up and been sold off... but there's a lot of info near the bottom of the listing with questions being answered.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22604752793...d48747c6d56d2c



 
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Why is it, that when I see the term "Frantz Filters" an image of a J.C. Whitney catalog pops into my brain?

Man, I haven't thought of Frantz Filters in like, forever... Things were a whole lot more low-tech back in the 50's and 60's, hah
 
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So the frantz filter says 2 micron, I thought it was a 1 micron.


interesting graphic, I wonder if the amsoil 2 micron filter will perform as well .



 
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So here is another tidbit, the frantz is 96% deficiency, the amsoil by pass is 99% efficiency.



 
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Frantz definitely has an operating cost advantage, toilet paper is cheaper than amsoil bypass media.


 
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Frantz definitely has an operating cost advantage, toilet paper is cheaper than amsoil bypass media.
Oh yeah, and a Filtration Solutions spin on by pass filter...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 12F350
Anyone have suggestions or knowledge of a 6.7 secondary oil system?
I like the theory. Something like this. Thoughts?
That kit replaces the OEM filter with a dual filter housing with a smaller primary filter and bypass filter. IMHO not the best set up for these trucks, the primary filter Amsoil throws on those kits is a 3/4-16 post and cross references to the motorcraft FL-299, the SMALLER version of FL1A, works great on a 300cui I-6 but not enough for a 6.7. The OEM spec filter for a 6.7 is 17-18 microns (I can't remember which off the top of my head) at 98%. Wix, Donaldson, Baldwin etc all meet or beat that. If you really want a bypass buy a BMK21 mount and throw the standalone bypass on it.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/filter-mount-assembly-bk303/

A lot cheaper and will perform better. You will need to figure out what fitting sizes Ford used for oil pressure sensor or you can get a 1-16 sandwich adapter.

Originally Posted by WXboy
I think it would be a lot less expensive and risky to just change the OE filter every 5k miles. It takes what, 60 seconds? I'm using the Baldwin filters with slightly higher micron rating.
The baldwin cross reference is lower than OEM at 8 microns at 98.67%.

Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Frantz definitely has an operating cost advantage, toilet paper is cheaper than amsoil bypass media.
It is but those amsoil filter do last a LONG time. I put 2 years and almost 60k on a BP110 on my old dodge back in the day. It was still flowing when I pulled it off. Weighed a TON.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2025 | 01:39 PM
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I recently removed the toilet paper filter I had on my truck. Not because I don't think it works, but because I can't extend OCI's anyway due to the emissions systems causing fuel dilution. The bypass filter increases the oil capacity which increases the cost of oil changes so if I have to change oil every 7k regardless, I just run a quality filter (Baldwin) and oil (Schaeffer's) and call it good.
 
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