Fuel additives
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Yeah i dont notice much with the Standyne. Some peace of mind on the cp4 is about it. Little seat of the pants feel on a stock truck too.
It does work as anti gel down to around 10 degrees I found out a couple years ago. Snap freeze and a lot of people were saying they gel’d and couldn’t start their trucks. I was fine.
Whats the optimal Cetane rating though? For a 6.7.
1.5 mpg is a lot. That would be a good 10% or more in my truck.
It does work as anti gel down to around 10 degrees I found out a couple years ago. Snap freeze and a lot of people were saying they gel’d and couldn’t start their trucks. I was fine.
AR6500 claims to increase your fuel milage because they are raising the cetane number in the fuel you put in the truck by "up to" 8 points. Sounds good but cetane numbers can vary from state to state. In other words, you may be raising your cetane levels, but they still may be lower than what others may get with standard fuel. When you see the term "up to" that means when you max dose the stuff. As an example, Texas is required to have at least a rating of 48 while California has a minimum rating of 53. You might have an increase, but others may get better milage without using anything. I believe all of the major additives use some form of cetane booster.
1.5 mpg is a lot. That would be a good 10% or more in my truck.
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So, I am not a fan of fuel additives, I have resisted using them all the way back to my 18 wheeler days, they are a PITA to keep up with, tote around, dump into the tank before fueling, blah-blah-blah...
Back in my 18 wheeler days, I had only used some anti-gel, and only a couple of times at that, and no use at all in my diesel pickups.
But, since my CP4 debacle and repair, I have been using the Opti-Lube XPD lubricity additive to try and keep the new pump from the same fate as the original and try and give myself some peace of mind.
Anyway, a guy I know, diesel shop owner, tells me I should try the Archoil additive instead, says he uses it and swears by it. So I contacted them and they assured me their AR6500 would do as good a job with lubricity as the Opti-Lube, plus it would help lower regens and increase fuel economy and boost cetane rating. They also offered a discount if I would try it out, so I bought 2 of their large bottles, each bottle will treat up to 400 gallons.
Now, the Opti-Lube adds about 4.5 cents per gallon to my fuel cost, with no increase in fuel economy, the Archoil costs more than twice as much, will add about 10 cents per gallon to my cost, but promises to increase fuel economy by 8-10%.
Now, I know verifying an 8-10% fuel economy gain will be difficult, and I don't know how it would decrease regens since the computer pretty much schedules them when I am running without a trailer.
So, I have a job this weekend and will be running about 2400-2500 miles, half towing, going to test this new stuff out and see if I can tell any difference.
We'll see...
Back in my 18 wheeler days, I had only used some anti-gel, and only a couple of times at that, and no use at all in my diesel pickups.
But, since my CP4 debacle and repair, I have been using the Opti-Lube XPD lubricity additive to try and keep the new pump from the same fate as the original and try and give myself some peace of mind.
Anyway, a guy I know, diesel shop owner, tells me I should try the Archoil additive instead, says he uses it and swears by it. So I contacted them and they assured me their AR6500 would do as good a job with lubricity as the Opti-Lube, plus it would help lower regens and increase fuel economy and boost cetane rating. They also offered a discount if I would try it out, so I bought 2 of their large bottles, each bottle will treat up to 400 gallons.
Now, the Opti-Lube adds about 4.5 cents per gallon to my fuel cost, with no increase in fuel economy, the Archoil costs more than twice as much, will add about 10 cents per gallon to my cost, but promises to increase fuel economy by 8-10%.
Now, I know verifying an 8-10% fuel economy gain will be difficult, and I don't know how it would decrease regens since the computer pretty much schedules them when I am running without a trailer.
So, I have a job this weekend and will be running about 2400-2500 miles, half towing, going to test this new stuff out and see if I can tell any difference.
We'll see...
sounds good..keep us posted
heres some info as to how the different formulas benefit....it would be good to no if archoil is an anti-gel....for us northerners ...gelling is a big problem...big cuase of cp4 fuel starvation
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wear scar test have not changed
217 is the wear scar score to beat.....if you can find an additive other than bio diesel that can beat that...go for it...if you have access to a 2.5% bio blend...then you dont need a lube additive...you might need cetane, anti-gel, anti-algae , de-emulsifier, emulsifier, rust inhibiter, etc.
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wear scar test have not changed
217 is the wear scar score to beat.....if you can find an additive other than bio diesel that can beat that...go for it...if you have access to a 2.5% bio blend...then you dont need a lube additive...you might need cetane, anti-gel, anti-algae , de-emulsifier, emulsifier, rust inhibiter, etc.
217 is the wear scar score to beat.....if you can find an additive other than bio diesel that can beat that...go for it...if you have access to a 2.5% bio blend...then you dont need a lube additive...you might need cetane, anti-gel, anti-algae , de-emulsifier, emulsifier, rust inhibiter, etc.
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So in 17 years all of the tested manufacturers have not changed any of their magic lubrication formulas¿ I would like to think that maybe they did but noone seems to have a more current test out there....but then apparently not unless you use you tube and shade tree testers.
its simple...just obtain the wear scar number for what ever you want to use and compare to 217, then use whatever you wish.
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It's even easier than that. Add diesel fuel to truck pour whatever magic juice additive you feel is best and off you go. Having an engineering degree to drive a diesel truck is just head banging unless you have way too much time on your hands or retired.
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I just noticed I had mentioned the wrong opti-lube version that I used, I use the XL not XPD.
XL is basically just for lubricity, XPD is their performance additive.
I will edit the original post.
XL is basically just for lubricity, XPD is their performance additive.
I will edit the original post.
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Yeah i dont notice much with the Standyne. Some peace of mind on the cp4 is about it. Little seat of the pants feel on a stock truck too.
It does work as anti gel down to around 10 degrees I found out a couple years ago. Snap freeze and a lot of people were saying they gel’d and couldn’t start their trucks. I was fine.
Whats the optimal Cetane rating though? For a 6.7..
It does work as anti gel down to around 10 degrees I found out a couple years ago. Snap freeze and a lot of people were saying they gel’d and couldn’t start their trucks. I was fine.
Whats the optimal Cetane rating though? For a 6.7..
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I’ve been very happy with the MPG of my 23. Compared to my 2.7 ecoboost. I can’t believe an 8 thousand pound truck can be this efficient.