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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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Help! May Be Stranded DEF Fault

Traveling 70E out of Higginsville, MO (east of St Louis) towing my 38 ft 5th wheel. Got a DEF warning DEF Fault speed will be limited to 50 mph in 50 miles. Found a Ford dealer, drove up & they are out of business. Great! On the forum people complain about this warning coming & going with no speed limitation. The owners manual says there is a miles countdown that follows this message which I didn’t get. Tempted to keep on going. Suggestions please?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:35 AM
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Keep looking for a dealer to fix it.

i think there is a count down.

 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:58 AM
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Find a parts store or shop that can read the trouble codes for you and let us know what it is showing.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:16 AM
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Found a dealer, Joe Machens Ford in Columbia, Missouri. Chris Early, Service Advisor, met me at the door. Of course I was hard to miss pulling in with that trailer. But within a few minutes he has the tech looking at it & hopefully it’s just a bad sensor. While we were waiting another employee stopped by the lounge & offered a ride anywhere in the city. Great Service!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:24 AM
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Tech & service advisor said no codes, seems to be running ok. They said that when I add DEF I should fill it completely up, if not the computer may not reset & think it’s still close to empty. I didn’t do that this morning, I just added the 2.5 gallon jug which on the gauge is about 3/4 full. Topping it off now & will reset the system so in a short time we should off!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan1954
Tech & service advisor said no codes, seems to be running ok. They said that when I add DEF I should fill it completely up, if not the computer may not reset & think it’s still close to empty. I didn’t do that this morning, I just added the 2.5 gallon jug which on the gauge is about 3/4 full. Topping it off now & will reset the system so in a short time we should off!
Absolutely fill it to the max. Don not add a gallon here and a gallon there.

 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan1954
Tech & service advisor said no codes, seems to be running ok. They said that when I add DEF I should fill it completely up, if not the computer may not reset & think it’s still close to empty. I didn’t do that this morning, I just added the 2.5 gallon jug which on the gauge is about 3/4 full. Topping it off now & will reset the system so in a short time we should off!
Well, I don't know about that, when mine gets down to the 500 miles to empty warning, I will stop and add a 2.5 gallon jug and have never had the reduced speed warning.
Now, when I start a trip, I do stop at a truck stop and top off at the pump, then do that jug add later in my trip.
And, the truck stop pump is really the only way to reliably top off, trying it with a jug will just get DEF spilled down the side of your truck and all over your shoes!
Also, since there were no codes, my bet is they will not find anything, and was probably just a momentary hiccup.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan1954
Traveling 70E out of Higginsville, MO (east of St Louis) towing my 38 ft 5th wheel. Got a DEF warning DEF Fault speed will be limited to 50 mph in 50 miles. Found a Ford dealer, drove up & they are out of business. Great! On the forum people complain about this warning coming & going with no speed limitation. The owners manual says there is a miles countdown that follows this message which I didn’t get. Tempted to keep on going. Suggestions please?
Unfortunately, I've had this issue in a couple of different trucks in the floor.

Both times or no check engine lights and everything appeared to be fine.

What had happened both times was the computer lost the value it's stored in the ECM. Both times Ford had to reflash the ECM. If they look through the ecm files, they have to look at the value of the quantity of the DEF tank.

The first time Ford was really puzzled, The second time was much easier with different dealer. Basically all they have to do is reflash the ECM.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:50 AM
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This was reported to happen on pre 2019 models IIRC. I still make every effort to time my stops so I wind up at truck stops or Bucees/Racetrack's that have def pumps and fill to the brim.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by augam
This was reported to happen on pre 2019 models IIRC. I still make every effort to time my stops so I wind up at truck stops or Bucees/Racetrack's that have def pumps and fill to the brim.
That is another thing, the OP didn't give the 411 on his truck, no idea exactly what he has.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 10:56 AM
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That is another thing, the OP didn't give the 411 on his truck, no idea exactly what he has.
His stats show a 2017 if it's current.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
His stats show a 2017 if it's current.
But, you have to search for that.
 
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The DEF level is percentage based, BUT the gauge is not, its 1/4 based. Adding 2.5 gallons will change the percentage but may not move the actual dash gauge if it is under 50%.
 
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But, you have to search for that.
Also, Signatures are great but if someone is using mobile app then sigs don't show either.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
The DEF level is percentage based, BUT the gauge is not, its 1/4 based. Adding 2.5 gallons will change the percentage but may not move the actual dash gauge if it is under 50%.
depends on the year of truck my 23 shows every percent

Pretty sure mine goes down by the percent when it gets consumed and it goes up by the percent when you fill it up
 
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