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Mountain Pass
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Ram never moved the 5th Gen cab and architecture to the HD line. They did update the interior slightly, but overall the HD trucks are still the same 4th Gen trucks they've sold for over a decade.
The true 5th Gen Rams are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much nicer than any other truck on the market. Gorgeous exterior lines, larger and more functional interior with a flat rear load floor, larger rear seat, better sound deadening throughout, more safety, etc. etc. Even the sound you hear when you close the doors is different. I have no idea why they never moved that to the HD trucks. Well, I guess I do... Stellantis is run by idiots.
If they had moved the 5th Gen to the HD line, and had left the hydraulic lifters off the Cummins engine, the Ram would have been the best HD truck in the segment by a long shot. Oh well.....
The true 5th Gen Rams are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much nicer than any other truck on the market. Gorgeous exterior lines, larger and more functional interior with a flat rear load floor, larger rear seat, better sound deadening throughout, more safety, etc. etc. Even the sound you hear when you close the doors is different. I have no idea why they never moved that to the HD trucks. Well, I guess I do... Stellantis is run by idiots.
If they had moved the 5th Gen to the HD line, and had left the hydraulic lifters off the Cummins engine, the Ram would have been the best HD truck in the segment by a long shot. Oh well.....
Cross-Country
Joined: May 2014
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This is exactly why I am visiting this forum. I own a 2015 RAM 2500 CCLB with a 6.4L engine and it has served me well, but I am ready to move to a truck with more capacity and more features. The last few years in a row I have told myself to hold out one more year because they have to upgrade the RAM HD to the new cab by next year. Unfortunately, it is now obvious that Stellantis is not investing any money to update any of the current platforms. Now I am 99% sure I am going to order a Ford in January - just too tired of waiting.
Logistics Pro
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I just went from 15 Ram 3500 to a 24 F350. I also was looking forward to an update Ram too. Don’t know when or if it will ever happen. Stellantis is not in a good place. Rumours of a ZF 8 speed transmission and upgraded Cummins I think are just that…rumours. I was relatively happy with the Cummins and Aisin. The Ram platform is old though. I found lots of Ford Superduty inventory in my area and I got a great discount. Not many changes for the 2025’s. Have you considered a 24?
Mountain Pass
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I just went from 15 Ram 3500 to a 24 F350. I also was looking forward to an update Ram too. Don’t know when or if it will ever happen. Stellantis is not in a good place. Rumours of a ZF 8 speed transmission and upgraded Cummins I think are just that…rumours. I was relatively happy with the Cummins and Aisin. The Ram platform is old though. I found lots of Ford Superduty inventory in my area and I got a great discount. Not many changes for the 2025’s. Have you considered a 24?
With all of that said, If they could locate a truck with all my wanted features and for less than a 25, I would seriously consider it.
FTE Community Team
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From: sussex county, nj
it's across the world, we needed a new mid sized shop truck, couldn't wait the time needed to have a ranger built , went from a tacoma to a frontier same world if different, IMMO nissian's QC is worse, and they won't fix what's wrong till it fully breaks or thier people have proof there's a problem like a radio that stops working or whose back up camera fails to work, handles like stinky , tires all leaked from day one and had torn beads , . gas mileage thier 3.8l v6 is a bigger gas hog than my old 250 v10 was .
yes the grass is never greener
yes the grass is never greener
Tuned
Joined: Sep 2022
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From: Flint
its pretty much always been that way with the super duty. You can get dual zone auto climate control in a Silverado HD LT and a Ram Big Horn but not an XLT. I really wanted it since I usually have the AC on full blast directly on my arms and the wife is always too cold for AC. But couldn’t stomach the $$$ premium to step up to a Lariat.
Logistics Pro
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its pretty much always been that way with the super duty. You can get dual zone auto climate control in a Silverado HD LT and a Ram Big Horn but not an XLT. I really wanted it since I usually have the AC on full blast directly on my arms and the wife is always too cold for AC. But couldn’t stomach the $$$ premium to step up to a Lariat.
If that gap gets much bigger...yeah it may not be worth it anymore. Just makes it hard to make the jump when they're obviously offering it in the same trim level of other vehicles but not this one.
FTE Legend
Joined: Mar 2017
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From: Western NY
Each brand has their pro's and con's just like Ford. GM and Ram forums are full of die-hard brand lovers just like FTE who say the same thing about greener grass.
I came from 2 newer Dodges and a Ram (among many older '70's-'90's Fords). Haven't been around the 5th Gen Ram's yet...
I came from 2 newer Dodges and a Ram (among many older '70's-'90's Fords). Haven't been around the 5th Gen Ram's yet...
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From: The Great State of Texas
Friend of mine purchased a new Ram 1500 Hemi E torque this year and each side of the bed has two noticeable dents because the sheet metal is so thin. Didn't have a dent on his old Dodge truck.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Nov 2022
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From: swansea ma
Acdii, I've read multiple about how hard your 450 road, just for curiosity, did it have a plow package or camper package?I have a 2020 King Ranch which I ordered new without any heavy duty suspension package and rides great, in fact better than both of my friends 3500 Denalis, one is a 19 the other is a 24. Just curious
More Turbo
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I owned several Ram trucks since 2010. In my experience they are throw away trucks to be dumped before the factory warranty runs out. FCA will also leave you holding the bag on their manufacturing defects if they can get away with it. I just traded in my Ram 1500 Rebel on the new F250. At 53k it was falling apart and time to pull the rip cord.
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I owned several Ram trucks since 2010. In my experience they are throw away trucks to be dumped before the factory warranty runs out. FCA will also leave you holding the bag on their manufacturing defects if they can get away with it. I just traded in my Ram 1500 Rebel on the new F250. At 53k it was falling apart and time to pull the rip cord.
Logistics Pro
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Okay that is hilarious. And as a Ram owner, I really don't get the guys who run around with the mirrors up (though the '23s now have slide-out mirrors similar to everyone else). On my '17 gasser, I took about a 2mpg hit on the highway with those up. It's not really an issue with the new one but I still wish I had the '23+ mirrors. They do look goofy turned up like that, though they are pretty effective for towing.
