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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 11:57 AM
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Cabover Superior Fire Truck Flatdeck Conversion

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My endless pursuit for a minty old heavy truck to haul water has lead me to this possibility:

It’s advertised as a 1985 Ford F800 Superior Fire Truck. 429 w/ Allison auto. It’s super clean and well maintained but it only works for me if it’s relatively simple to remove the fire fighting apparatus and just leave the big tilt cab and frame, I’d then put a 15’ deck on it.

Anybody have experience with these Superior trucks?

thanks

Rob
 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 05:17 PM
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Is it air brakes?

You can take all that stuff off if you have a crane capable of lifting it.

I think you will find the driveshaft goes into a transfer case that operates either the drive axle or the pump.

That will be scrap and you'll have to get a new driveshaft if that's how the pump is driven.

Roomy cab if you always take the family on the dump truck runs....
 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 08:25 PM
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the pump and transfer case weights over 2000 lbs .the existing tank might be rusted ,will it hold water ?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 02:36 AM
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It’s hydraulic brakes.
Apparently the stainless steel tank appears clean inside and holds water, just 500 Imp Gal
could I get away with leaving the transfer case in place and disconnecting the pump?
Ya definitely a cool cab to bring the whole family!

as always everyones input is greatly appreciated
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 08:55 AM
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Automatic transmissions in trucks of the era did not have a park feature, they relied entirely on the parking/emergency brake to hold it in place when parked. When converting a truck chassis to a fire truck the brake unit is removed from the back of the transmission and relocated to the back of the fire pump
I converted a 68 C-800 fire truck chassis back to a standard truck to install a spreader bed, the parking brake unit was a easy fit back onto the transmission buck some of the linkages and linkage brackets had been changed and were difficult to find.
The fire pump is a 2000 lb monstrosity that takes up a lot of space and sticks up nearly a foot above the trucks frame interfering with any type of bed one would want to install
also once the pump is removed a cross member will need to be made and installed to support a carrier bearing to support the addition drive shafts needed
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 10:07 AM
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if you retain the transfer case ,make sure it has gear lube in it
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks for that! This look like maybe a pass…… unless I framed up some tall cross beams to get the deck to clear the pump….? Then I’d have a higher center of gravity but probably still useful for a low profile plastic 2000 imperial gallon water tank….
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 03:01 PM
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Taking out the pump is a challenge but is the only answer to converting it to something useful.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 03:44 PM
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Ok good to know 👍.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2024 | 10:18 PM
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could the pump be clocked 180 ,and cross members under the frame ?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2024 | 10:27 PM
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That’s not a bad idea
 
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Old Sep 20, 2024 | 11:11 PM
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Is the existing tank big enough for your needs?
 
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No it’s 500 gal. I want to haul 1500-2000
 
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Old Sep 20, 2024 | 11:35 PM
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Then pull the pump.
 
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Originally Posted by garygnu
could the pump be clocked 180 ,and cross members under the frame ?
I don’t thing you realize just how big those fire pump’s actually are


 
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