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I wouldn’t say no one reads the manual, and it’s readily available on that big touch screen in front of you. And the high speed issue has already be explained in the post. It is for the rear ring and pinion, and it keeps the gear oil from being overheated during break in.
What is considered high speed so the next new buyer questioning what speed is to high knows not to drive that speed? Don't want to be denied warranty. 🤔
So, is dumping the oil after the first 500 to 1,000 miles one of those anecdotal things or based in fact?
UOA’s will always show much more wear metal in the first 5k-10k miles, so definitely not anecdotal. Many will change their oil at 500 miles and again at 3k miles on a new engine for this reason. Required by manual? No. That’s why I called it a best practice.
What is considered high speed so the next new buyer questioning what speed is to high knows not to drive that speed? Don't want to be denied warranty. 🤔
And that's just one of the general statements in the owners manual. Without a detailed procedure and definitions even the owners manual break in literature is vague and generalized enough that none of us outside of the Ford engineering team even know if we're performing the break in properly if we choose to even bother.
UOA’s will always show much more wear metal in the first 5k-10k miles, so definitely not anecdotal. Many will change their oil at 500 miles and again at 3k miles on a new engine for this reason. Required by manual? No. That’s why I called it a best practice.
But does the "much more wear metal in the first 5k -10k miles" mean dumping the oil in the first 500 to 1k miles will result in longer engine life? I haven't read or heard that such a practice is meaningful in today's modern engines. It is more of a "feel good" thing to do which makes it more anecdotal.
And that's just one of the general statements in the owners manual. Without a detailed procedure and definitions even the owners manual break in literature is vague and generalized enough that none of us outside of the Ford engineering team even know if we're performing the break in properly if we choose to even bother.
Full circle to post #6... "I wonder with all my previous trucks with over 200k+ miles in 5-6 years before moving on to the next owner. Driving/ working from day one the way it would be used it's entire life and never an issue.
Even scarier not changing the oil in the first 500 miles but at 5-7,000 miles.
Now I wouldn't recommend taking and using it everyday from new for tractor pull and drag racing competition. "
Well, thread starter, I hope you got your question answered. At this point, it feels like the forum OG’s just want to play the fool, which they appear real good at. I have noticed the consensus on this forum is usually the opposite of the truth/right right answer. Time to roll on.
Well, thread starter, I hope you got your question answered. At this point, it feels like the forum OG’s just want to play the fool, which they appear real good at. I have noticed the consensus on this forum is usually the opposite of the truth/right right answer. Time to roll on.
So, what members have written about their experiences is not the truth? I have noticed that some resort to insults and name calling when they don't have the facts to support their position.
Well, thread starter, I hope you got your question answered. At this point, it feels like the forum OG’s just want to play the fool, which they appear real good at. I have noticed the consensus on this forum is usually the opposite of the truth/right right answer. Time to roll on.
This is quite funny considering you copy&pasted AI and another user posted the manual which gives the official opinion of the manufacturer
But does the "much more wear metal in the first 5k -10k miles" mean dumping the oil in the first 500 to 1k miles will result in longer engine life? I haven't read or heard that such a practice is meaningful in today's modern engines. It is more of a "feel good" thing to do which makes it more anecdotal.
If you read some of the posts here regarding changing the oil early,some do and some say your wasting your money.
So, what members have written about their experiences is not the truth? I have noticed that some resort to insults and name calling when they don't have the facts to support their position.
Bro, people can easily read two pages of posts. You’re not bedazzling anyone with even a modest attention span. They can see I have given facts. You just don’t want to acknowledge that. My first post stated that the owner’s manual says you should wait 1k miles before towing. I stated what needs break-in and why. Best practice on early oil change is just that. The AI response was for fun. Can’t have that here I guess. And hell yeah, I am going to fire back at passive aggressive comments directed at me. At a certain point you realize you’re punching down though.
Bro, people can easily read two pages of posts. You’re not bedazzling anyone with even a modest attention span. They can see I have given facts. You just don’t want to acknowledge that. My first post stated that the owner’s manual says you should wait 1k miles before towing. I stated what needs break-in and why. Best practice on early oil change is just that. The AI response was for fun. Can’t have that here I guess. And hell yeah, I am going to fire back at passive aggressive comments directed at me. At a certain point you realize you’re punching down though.
Ah, the insults continue.
I did not question anything you posted except the best practice of dumping the oil after the first 500 to 1K miles. Maybe I missed it but I have not read any facts from you that correlate changing the oil after the first 500 to 1K miles results in longer engine life or, that not doing so, results in shorter engine life. The owner's manual does not call for an early oil change nor does the AI response you posted. If you choose to do so for your own piece of mind, great. But that does not make it a best practice. I've been pretty straight forward with my comment. I'm don't know why you consider it being passive aggressive.
You can really tell this on a motorcycle. New tires can be really slick, especially when you only have two of them.
Originally Posted by scraprat
Seeing noone reads an owners manual and Ford doesn't deem it important enough to put a printed manual in a truck anymore. Must go get a download copy and keep on a electronic device.
Here it is... towing is pretty straightforward but driving to fast??? That must be the drag racing competition warranty denial. Good thing all vehicles start in city's and suburbs for varying speeds and transmission shifting in the first 1,000 miles for the "proper" break in. Screw you country hicks move closer to civilization.
