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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 03:03 PM
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Why 00 battery cables?

I finally broke down and listened to all the stock 6v guys on here; all 5 of them..I recently replaced all of my battery cables, except the positive strap (that’s still the original braided strap) ,with double zero gauge cables along with the correctly rebuilt original OEM starter motor on my 6 V pos. ground 52, truck. Now the truck starts flawlessly and very quickly! But as I understand it, the original specification on the battery cables was a 2 gauge. That’s what you’re going to get from an OEM supply source.

000,00,0,1,2,3,4. The higher the number the thinner the cable correct? So my question is why didn’t Ford originally specify a double zero gauge and why did you guys settle on double zero? Not a 1 or 0?

cause the truck starts like a 12v now it’s simply amazing.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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00 is readily available and leaves no doubt of the current carrying capabilities. A little overkill as 2 gauge will work, but as you experience, it really works.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 04:46 PM
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You can never have a wire/cable that is too large, so if you can afford the larger cable go for it. In today's market, as opposed to that in the early 50's, there is a far wider variety of premium high-strand, flexible cable that completely outperforms the OEM cables. Since this is YOUR truck, and you are not building thousands to sell, the profit margin is not a factor so indulge yourself.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieLed
You can never have a wire/cable that is too large, so if you can afford the larger cable go for it. In today's market, as opposed to that in the early 50's, there is a far wider variety of premium high-strand, flexible cable that completely outperforms the OEM cables. Since this is YOUR truck, and you are not building thousands to sell, the profit margin is not a factor so indulge yourself.
thanks! Cost was never a factor in deciding which battery cables to purchase or anything else for that matter, be careful I definitely don’t need any more encouragement to indulge myself with this truck. In fact someone should lock up my wallet. I think
I’m finally done!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 10:31 AM
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Lot less "pressure" for voltage to travel though 00 than 2 gauge. Which also equals less heat. Which equals safer.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:32 PM
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Is the factory ground strap your only ground to the battery? That may prevent the full benefit of 00-ga cables on the hot side from being realized.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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Is the factory ground strap your only ground to the battery? That may prevent the full benefit of 00-ga cables on the hot side from being realized.

Yes, the OEM type cable is the only one on there, I was wondering if that would have any effect on the new cables? But it does start like a banshee now.

I like my original one as it even has the FOMOCO terminal on the end. So I didn’t really want to change it up.

 
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 04:43 PM
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If I recall correctly (and that's a big IF) your OE branded cable could be classified as a #2 sized cable. If that is the case, there would be sort of a current "bottle neck" and could get very warm to the touch in the event you are having a hard time starting the truck with extended cranking. If you run into a situation like that I would take a set of jumper cables and using just one side adding a second ground connection between the battery and the engine block. But if it's starting great, which it sounds like it does, I would leave it. Besides it shows the FoMoCo logo on it which is way cool.
 
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I made 00 like you and have great starting. Good brushes and new springs really help on the 6v starter. I think a lot of times the starter gets over restored. That ground has to go through it, ground needs a good clean path through the starter body and bolts.

Maybe the reason they didn’t use 00 back when was the flexibility. I used welding cable and it’s like a piece of rubber.

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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hooler1
If I recall correctly (and that's a big IF) your OE branded cable could be classified as a #2 sized cable. If that is the case, there would be sort of a current "bottle neck" and could get very warm to the touch in the event you are having a hard time starting the truck with extended cranking. If you run into a situation like that I would take a set of jumper cables and using just one side adding a second ground connection between the battery and the engine block. But if it's starting great, which it sounds like it does, I would leave it. Besides it shows the FoMoCo logo on it which is way cool.
yes, I believe you are correct that the OEM is size 2. I asked Chris at Bauer Wiring and that’s what he told me, but I can’t understand why Ford didn’t specify large cables from the get go? I was just wondering why you guys predominantly seem to specify double zero as opposed to zero or even one? Maybe just from personal experience people just noticed that it really works better for them ? In any event I’m gonna leave it as double zero- I don’t think they’re that noticeable, and the way it starts is thrilling , and they’re black so they look pretty much like OEM. But I will be aware of over cranking and potential that the positive cable is a weak point in the system.
 
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52FLThd you are not done.

 
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52FLThd you are not done.
That’s a good one! I think I’m gonna print that out in color and frame it and give it to my wife for Christmas! She keeps asking me ..

But seriously, I just meant being done with the bad part. I’ve been through hell and back with this truck various parts going bad repeatedly, various issues. I’ve even shocked several of my newer Car friends with my trials and tribulations all part of the learning experience and the fun. I don’t really take it that seriously.
 
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Originally Posted by 3twinridges
I made 00 like you and have great starting. Good brushes and new springs really help on the 6v starter. I think a lot of times the starter gets over restored. That ground has to go through it, ground needs a good clean path through the starter body and bolts.

Maybe the reason they didn’t use 00 back when was the flexibility. I used welding cable and it’s like a piece of rubber.

JB
also, there is the oil pan to starter bracket which is a critical piece often missing. I found some NOS brackets but they do make reproductions. I think I’ve been through about 4 starters within this year. If I told you how many generators you might try to have me committed. eBay can be both good and bad. All I can say is getting these parts rebuilt really well is super critical just like the cables. My mechanic sourced out the cables. I think he got them from Napa? I left that part up to him. Every other part I come armed with at least two of if not three of.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2024 | 06:30 AM
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When we built our 52, I actually made a 00 ground braid strap for the battery to block. It was pretty heavy duty and didn’t look stock so I put the stock one back on. I didn’t notice any change. I think you will be fine with the stock ground strap.

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Old Aug 24, 2024 | 02:53 PM
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Great Thread!

6V 223 6cyl here. This was very helpful. I am not near putting the engine back in but I learned something.

Originally Posted by 52Flthed
also, there is the oil pan to starter bracket which is a critical piece often missing. I found some NOS brackets but they do make reproductions.
Can you tell me a bit more about that bracket. I don't see anything like that on my engine and I actually had 2 engines.

thanks all
 
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