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Old Aug 11, 2024 | 01:14 PM
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2008 6.4 delete

I'm really late to this activity. I've always intended on doing it, but want to do it the right way. I've read about so many different ways to do it that I don't know which way to go, which way is best?
I want my truck to look as stock as possible so I will be hollowing out the DPF and Cat. The H&S Mini Maxx tuner seems the most popular. I'm not looking for additional power, reliability is my goal, with additional MPG a welcome benefit. My main concern is how to deal with the EGR system.
The truck has gone through 3 radiators, and I'm putting in the 4th right now. I'm also putting in new cab mounts. The old ones don't look too bad, but I've been told they are the likely reason I get these leaking radiators. Since my radiator is out, I figure now is the best time to tackle the delete.
I'm not a mechanic, but I'm tired of paying such high prices. I paid $1700 for my last radiator & install, and could see that parts were left off now that I'm doing it myself. Where I'm at at this moment is the cab mounts are unbolted, and the radiator is out. The EGR system looks much more accessible now that the front of the engine has been opened up.

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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 10:47 AM
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Big brother used to get all pissed off if we talked about emission control device deletes ( because the Tyrancial EPA was literally imprisoning people for selling them on top of multi-dollar fines). The EPA lawyers even threatened forum owners with big dollar fines if they allowed delete discussions (which seems like a direct violation of freedom of speech, but hey, the left is all about censorship).

Maybe the new supreme court decision has taken away some of those EPA lawyer threats IDK.
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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 01:28 PM
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From what I can see my truck pollutes more with the stock system. I burn a lot more fuel to begin with, then when it goes into regen mode it burns a cloud of blue smoke out the tail pipe for a long time. I do see trucks roll the coal quite often, and think some diesel owners can be their own worst enemy. I see the public being the opposite of impressed with that. I only use my truck when I need a truck. It's very good at towing and hauling, and using it only for these duties probably help with passive regen, and that may be the benefit the EPA saw in the system they required. But it still severely limits the life span of the engine, and by the time the engine destroys itself it is one polluting machine.
People may be reluctant to post how they deleted their truck fearing big brother. Talking about something is different than being a business making, selling parts, or doing the work. Those are the ones they have always have gone after. They get us individuals when we need our vehicles smog tested for tags.
Is there a way to test or inspect the EGR system? I'm concerned it could become plugged. I really don't understand it very well. The DPF is more straight forward. I do see there are block off plates in delete kits. I've read about the up pipe cracking because it becomes unsupported with the coolers removed. I've heard of tapping the block off plate for the sensor, and removing the up pipe all together. Why not leave the coolers in place and block off the gas recirculation at the source? Where is the CC ventilation going with the EGR blocked off? With the over fueling the engine endures(wear) in cleaning the DPF constantly increasing CC pressure how does the EGR system handle this extra pressure, let alone the oil residue along with it, trying to pass the DPF? How does ash leave the DPF?
How effective are the EGR coolers in cooling the EG that is re-entering combustion? I see there are improved EGR's being made. Are they only solving a leaking cooler potential?
How could the EPA approve a system like this? What does the "P" in EPA stand for? It's looking like an H would be more appropriate in this case.
I appreciate anyones ideas on helping the 6.4. Thanks
 
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Old Sep 2, 2024 | 10:14 PM
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I'm going to stop talking about deleting the system, and try to understand how it works. Hopefully those here that understand the systems intent will feel like responding with this different tact. When my truck goes into regen mode, I understand it overfuels the back 2 cylinders. There is a catalytic converter before the DPF. What is this CC doing with all the unburned fuel trying to pass through it? It seems like it would get very hot. Is that the sole purpose of the CC to get the DPF very hot during regen? Does it work at all to reduce pollution when the truck is not in regen, or only exist for the regen mode? Thanks
 
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